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Demographics and the Future of California - Victor David Hanson
YouTube ^ | 9/10/23 | Victor David Hanson

Posted on 09/10/2023 7:29:54 AM PDT by hardspunned

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To: Wallace T.

Dolphins = Dolph.


41 posted on 09/10/2023 9:55:27 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: DanZ

“Republican” voters are now mostly Trump voters and the RINO Bushes can’t have that!

So the reaction to MAGA is rats have revealed themselves as out and out marxists and the RINOs became rats. Neither sides of the unitiparty want the likes of MAGA to interfere with their tried and true self-enrichment at the expense of We The People.


42 posted on 09/10/2023 10:15:29 AM PDT by Aria
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To: LuxAerterna

As I recall a lot of people expected a Republican tsunami in 2022.

Is that why Lindsey Graham came out with a proposal for stricter anti-abortion laws just before the election? When I saw him do this I figured he was trying to throw the election.


43 posted on 09/10/2023 10:21:52 AM PDT by Aria
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To: hardspunned
VDH styles himself as an Eee-yore, but in my book he is a Polyanna.

There is no way a regime this corrupt will allow itself to be voted out of office.

44 posted on 09/10/2023 11:37:21 AM PDT by rhinohunter (“Being woke means you’re a loser” — Donald J. Trump)
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To: hardspunned

A group moving to more conservative is good news, but the idea of what is conservative keeps getting softer.


45 posted on 09/10/2023 11:47:47 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: hardspunned

I spent years working with Latin Americans and anyone who thinks they — especially the males —aren’t naturally conservative has not.


46 posted on 09/10/2023 12:00:03 PM PDT by aculeus (Just Call Him "No Border" Biden)
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To: aculeus
I hear the same thing from lots of people. "They are deep down really conservative."

Same thing about Black culture..."They are very church-going...""They don't like gay culture..." "Morally they are really old-fashioned..." etc.

Doesn't mean jack.

They vote Rat. First time. Every time. Multiple times.

They use and traffic drugs.

They have children out of wedlock and abandon them for whitey to raise. By the tens and hundreds of thousands. Most of their kids, if allowed to be born, are illegitimate. Meaning we pay for their kids' food, housing, medical care, education, etc.

They steal, now in organized gangs.

They engage in violent crime.

They ignore our laws. They carjack and participate in cartels' evil work. All of them.

VDH is full of it.

Their conservative barking is just virtue signalling. It is phony.

47 posted on 09/10/2023 1:14:33 PM PDT by caddie (We must all become Trump, starting now!)
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To: hardspunned

Back in the day, anyone active in right-of-center politics in California had heard the mordant joke that the only thing that could save California was the San Andreas fault.

What they were referring to was that if you could overcome the solid Dem voting and fundraising of people who lived to the west of the San Andreas, California would still be the right/libertarian beacon it had been (at least as some imagined it).

That wasn’t right then, because it ignored the overwhelming weight of demography.


48 posted on 09/10/2023 4:10:21 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

I think VDH gets his perspective from his everyday experiences in non crap hole city California.
https://youtu.be/U9o-68M0bCU?si=X2r_C4oWBOPLcuj1


49 posted on 09/10/2023 4:16:27 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Pelham
They transform society in culture and politics

VDH has to know this, and said as much in his book "Mexifornia" twenty years ago, so it's always puzzling when he defaults back to the "they are basically conservatives at heart" falderal that the Chamber of Commerce "Republicans" have been pushing for decades in California, and everywhere else. He's capable of great clarity of thought, and generally worth listening to even when (or particularly?) when he's wrong, but in this case he's like every other BoomerCon who just can't understand that the population that was imported into California is fundamentally rooted in a culture completely at odds with the culture that Hansen remembers.

He keeps looking at California and listing the positives. Great climate, abundant natural resources, some of the most productive agricultural land in the world and thinks "surely, people will realize what they have here, and change course before everything is destroyed". I don't blame him. I grew up in the 60's and 70's in southern California, which now looks like a sunny small-l libertarian dream. If you wanted to go to college, anyone with the grades could get in to the UC system, and get a first-rate education, but that wasn't at all necessary. Good-paying blue collar jobs were abundant in aerospace, manufacturing, construction, and new entrepreneurial businesses seemed to sprout like weeds. Surely any sensible person would look at the madness that emanates from Sacramento and rebel? He just doesn't understand that California is out of reach precisely because of the cultural preferences of the current population. Or maybe it just breaks his heart and he has to pretend to find a silver lining somewhere.

At this point, it's much more likely that California will come to resemble Venezuela, rather than the gilt Reagan-era powerhouse of economic prosperity and "do your own thing" libertarianism of hallowed memory.

50 posted on 09/10/2023 4:27:53 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: hardspunned

Have you ever been to Selma, California?


51 posted on 09/10/2023 4:52:14 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

I have not. I have driven up and down 99 many times.


52 posted on 09/10/2023 5:16:48 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

Pretty sure that it would qualify, today, as a “crap hole city California”. VDH makes a similar point in the video you linked.

It wasn’t always. It became that way during his lifetime.

Lots of factors, but massive immigration was one of them.


53 posted on 09/10/2023 5:24:24 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

“VDH has to know this, and said as much in his book “Mexifornia” twenty years ago, “

VDH should know. But he’s remarkably inconsistent, with “Mexifornia” seeming to be his one foray into recognizing how the mass immigration that he otherwise celebrates has transformed California into something alien.

His default position is something akin to the Bush Open Borders/ US Chamber of Commerce rubbish that places zero importance on the survival of American culture.

Now, in SoCal, his book would have to be titled “MultiCultifornia” since even the army of Mexican illegals are getting swamped in the tidal wave from the rest of the 3rd world.

This week I watched a heated parking lot argument pitting a Subcontinent Indian against two recent Chinese arrivals; it was about whether or not the Lexus of one had scratched the Tesla of the other. I thought “this is quintessential Post-WASP Orange County”.

The ‘60s and ‘70s SoCal you knew was populated by overwhelmingly anglo aerospace engineers, who although long vanished are of course considered representatives of evil xenophobic oppressors of the world’s Peoples Of Color.


54 posted on 09/10/2023 5:25:22 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: hardspunned

bump


55 posted on 09/10/2023 6:49:20 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: hardspunned

Sorry...can’t agree.Kalifornia will continue to deteriorate to the point where 1% of the population will live in places like Santa Monica and Palo Alto and the rest will live in places that resemble Burkina Faso.


56 posted on 09/11/2023 5:34:21 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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To: Pelham

Sorry to be a Johnny-come-lately to thiis debate, but I absolutely agree, and as someone who had the pleasure of living in CA for half a year, it breaks my heart :-(

And I hardly have seen a better and more succinct statement about California (and Dr. Hanson) than the one spoken by Mr. Absalom01, to which you have been replying. Thank you, and thanks be to Mr. Absalom01, too :-)

Imho, America’s immigration disaster really grinds my gears again and again...to this day, I believe that the 1965 Immigration Act never would have passed into law if the lawmakers had known the consequences - notwithstanding the sympathies of all three Kennedy brothers for immigration reform.


57 posted on 09/11/2023 11:20:04 PM PDT by Menes
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To: hardspunned

4l8er


58 posted on 09/11/2023 11:51:08 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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