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How Was the “98% Success Number” for Bear Spray Computed?
AmmoLand ^ | August 22, 2023 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/27/2023 6:29:24 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: marktwain

We are hiking at Waterton, Glacier, and Yellowstone next week. We saw a big bruin up close at Glacier in 2020. I had left the bear spray in the car. He was polite, though.


41 posted on 08/27/2023 11:39:39 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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They didn’t count the people who thought it worked like bug spray ...

... and the people it didn’t work for at all never got back to them for some reason.


42 posted on 08/27/2023 11:43:11 AM PDT by x
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I’m pro-gun, but I switched from a sidearm to carrying bear spray years ago. It just makes sense - I’d rather have what is effectively a small flamethrower than be trying to hit the brain case of a charging grizzly with my .40 S&W.


43 posted on 08/27/2023 12:12:56 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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I’d rather have what is effectively a small flamethrower than be trying to hit the brain case of a charging grizzly with my .40 S&W.

That is the illusion which is sold.

Unfortunately, bear spray has many limitations, itself. It does not work well in cold temps, or wind at almost any velocity. It does not penetrate foliage. While I have not seen any tests, It is likely much diminished in rain. Many bears are able to shrug it off or ignore it, especially black bears, or any bears in a predatory mode.

Fortunately, with handguns, you don't have to hit the brain case in every instance.

When it happens, it works very well. But in most cases, it is not necessary.
Bears often break off their aggressive action because of warning shots.

A great number of aggressive bears do not start with a full on charge.

Lots of bears break off the attack if wounded.

Wounding a bear often slows them down enough to get killing shots into them.

Often, the person shooting the bear is someone the bear did not target.

Handguns are far more ergonomic,and have far better holsters than bear spray.

All of those add up to 98% effective for handguns when the handguns are fired.

44 posted on 08/27/2023 2:56:12 PM PDT by marktwain
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how can it possibly be that there were more people injured in instances with injury than total people injured? Are they disregarding cases where the same guy is repeatedly bullied by a conspiracy of bears?


45 posted on 08/28/2023 12:29:41 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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That could be just a transportation problem.


46 posted on 08/28/2023 2:26:14 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: lepton

They manipulated the numbers.

To show that spray works better then firearms.


47 posted on 08/28/2023 2:29:18 AM PDT by riverrunner
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No it does not make sense to use spray instead of a firearm.

The anti-pro bear propaganda worked well on you.

Spray has a lot of limitations most caused by mother nature.
It is called weather. Then there is just limitation of range.

If you are not a good enough shot. Get some professional training and practice some more.

As a professional firearms instructor.

I offer a bear and animal defense training.


48 posted on 08/28/2023 2:37:20 AM PDT by riverrunner
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That could be just a transportation problem.

Could be. Most of the ones I have talked to, however, are uncomfortable (To put it mildly) with the very idea of people carrying firearms. If they only knew...

49 posted on 08/29/2023 12:22:18 PM PDT by Chuckster (Friends don't let friends eat FARMED FISH.)
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