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Boeing 747 CRASHES Just After Takeoff In New York (with real audio) [TWA800]
Youtube ^ | 7/25/2023 | the last mayday

Posted on 07/31/2023 6:56:22 PM PDT by logi_cal869

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To: KamperKen

I remember years ago when colleges banned the use of Wikipedia as a source. They’re as honest as Snopes.


41 posted on 07/31/2023 8:32:22 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Az Joe

And how would you suggest that I ‘fix’ the headline?

Perhaps the FIRST LINE of the excerpt should have been 75pt font so you didn’t miss it? /s


42 posted on 07/31/2023 8:33:51 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

You could ask a Moderator to clarify the headline.


43 posted on 07/31/2023 8:36:01 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: logi_cal869
The last FR thread on TWA800 was almost a year ago; I guess it's time for another one.

I'm pretty sure we had one sooner than a year ago, but time is getting funny the older I get nowadays.

44 posted on 07/31/2023 8:54:07 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: PetroniusMaximus
I was told by a Boeing crash investigator years ago that it was a missile.

I was told by someone who knows exactly what it was that it was a missile.

And it drives me nuts that I can't tell people who told me and why this person would know what they are talking about.

It was a missile.

45 posted on 07/31/2023 8:55:33 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DJ MacWoW

“I remember years ago when colleges banned the use of Wikipedia as a source. They’re as honest as Snopes.”

AFAIK they still do.


46 posted on 07/31/2023 8:56:07 PM PDT by KamperKen (u)
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To: KamperKen
That is also the opinion of Jack Cashill. The question is whose missile?

I have been told (by someone who is in a position to know) that it was rogue mercenaries from Iran, who had been hired by a wealthy Iranian family to get revenge on America for shooting down that Iran Air flight years ago.

And I have been told that Bill Clinton ordered a deliberate cover up.

47 posted on 07/31/2023 8:57:52 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: TexasGator
“Twenty-five years later, the questions and conspiracies live on.”

And corrupt people are still engaging in conspiracies too.

48 posted on 07/31/2023 8:58:54 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DJ MacWoW

“They”?

Wiki is basically user-modified. Not totally controlled like Snopes, written only by their biased owners.

If you don’t like it, put your viewpoint in on Wiki.

Of course the wiki entries aren’t always correct, but they do provide a nice starting point, and that usually includes other sources at the end of the article.


49 posted on 07/31/2023 8:59:34 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (.Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Conservatives who try to modify Wiki pages have their contributions deleted and their posting privileges revoked.


50 posted on 07/31/2023 9:03:12 PM PDT by TigersEye (Woke is a cancer of the mind and humanity)
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To: DiogenesLamp

same


51 posted on 07/31/2023 9:05:39 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm
Were you also told that Bill Clinton ordered a deliberate cover up?

My person said they were ordered to destroy evidence.

52 posted on 07/31/2023 9:08:50 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

“And corrupt people are still engaging in conspiracies too.”

I wasn’t implying that you were corrupt.


53 posted on 07/31/2023 9:08:52 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TigersEye

Seems I see plenty conservative stuff on there. As well as general conspiracist stuff. We don’t all think TWA was brought down by Navy or that Bush set up the terrorist attacks of 9/11, though.


54 posted on 07/31/2023 9:09:41 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (.Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV.)
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To: TexasGator
I wasn’t implying that you were corrupt.

I didn't get the impression that you were.

But the people who are actually engaging in conspiracies certainly are.

55 posted on 07/31/2023 9:10:24 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

“My person said they were ordered to destroy evidence.”

My person says your person is wrong.


56 posted on 07/31/2023 9:12:28 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TigersEye

Are you saying that there is nothing truthful on wiki?


57 posted on 07/31/2023 9:16:07 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: LukeL

This is the crash where the aircraft struck the Queensboro Bridge in NYC. They tried to blame it on an “over-manipulated jackscrew” which controls the elevator function. The only problem with that theory is, since this is fly-by-wire aircraft in which pilot input goes first into the computer and then to the solenoids that control the jackscrew/elevator. The computer prevents over-manipulation by the pilot. This was explained to me over lunch one day by the Boeing engineer/investigator that was sent to the scene. He stated that FAA and NTSB issued the jackscrew story to save the commercial air travel industry, since a second terrorist attack on an airliner in less than three months would effectively shut down commercial air travel. His investigation listed probable cause as a bomb in the last rows of the passenger compartment. He said most likely similar to the thwarted “tennis shoe bomber.” The agencies were not happy with his report, and made sure to drown it out. They portrayed it as him trying to shield his company.


58 posted on 07/31/2023 9:22:46 PM PDT by Raven6 (Psalm 144:1 and Proverbs 22:3)
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To: Raven6

And my mistake: I typed Boeing when I meant Airbus. I’m watching a video on the B-17 while Freeping, and I crossed them up.


59 posted on 07/31/2023 9:27:32 PM PDT by Raven6 (Psalm 144:1 and Proverbs 22:3)
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To: TexasGator
My person says your person is wrong.

I don't know your person so I don't care what they say. I know my person and I know enough about them that I believe what they say.

60 posted on 07/31/2023 9:28:54 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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