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How solar farms took over the California desert: ‘An oasis has become a dead sea’
The Guardian ^ | May 21, 2023 | Oliver Wainwright

Posted on 05/21/2023 6:58:09 PM PDT by AZJeep

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To: AZJeep

A few acres needed for a nuclear power plant.


21 posted on 05/21/2023 10:24:11 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: AZJeep

The people who opposed the southern border wall and said that the border wall would “damage the environment, destroy plants and protected animals.”

Now have what they want:

“The massive solar project covering 150,000 acres in Mohave desert causes major damage to environment, destroy plants and protected animals.”


22 posted on 05/21/2023 10:39:24 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: drSteve78

Colorado River, which I’ve heard is running dry.


23 posted on 05/21/2023 10:46:21 PM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: AZJeep

150,000 acres of shade on the ground where there isn’t supposed to be any! Did those idiots REALLY believe there wouldn’t be any effect on the plants and animals living there?

That’s 15 square miles of solar panels. Who goes out to clean the desert dust off of them? Do they need scarce water to clean them?


24 posted on 05/22/2023 2:56:12 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else…)
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To: Hardastarboard

I got flamed by some moron on this board for predicting something very like this. The negative environmental outcome of vast arrays of solar panels was so predictable.


25 posted on 05/22/2023 3:13:35 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Don't wish your enemy ill; plan it. )
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To: Hardastarboard

It is, I was trying warn people of this insanity over 20 years ago. It always boils down to energy density and uptime. The surface area alone required for either requires destruction of mass areas of acreage to support, meaning large scale impacts one being to life of course.

Solar and Wind have never been a model that can support reality beyond specialized or emergency uses.


26 posted on 05/22/2023 3:46:46 AM PDT by Skwor
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To: AZJeep

This from “The Guardian”?!

OK, pigs do fly!


27 posted on 05/22/2023 4:03:05 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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To: AZJeep

Oh please... “– and hundreds of people’s homes.”

HUNDREDS !!!

What a crock.


28 posted on 05/22/2023 4:48:05 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: AZJeep

Oh please.

“... ancient Indigenous cultural sites “

WHAT A CROCK !!!


29 posted on 05/22/2023 4:48:54 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: AZJeep

Oh please !

“...home to thousand-year-old carbon-capturing woodlands”

WOODLANDS ?!? What bleeping woodlands?!?

ITS A (bleeping) DESERT.


30 posted on 05/22/2023 4:50:12 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: AZJeep

Oh PLEASE !!!

“... rich and fragile habitat for endangered species “

WHAT ENDANGERED SPECIES !!!

NAME THEM !!!


31 posted on 05/22/2023 4:51:18 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: AZJeep

OH PLEASE !!!

“... Residents have watched ruefully for years as solar plants crept over the horizon, bringing noise and pollution that’s eroding a way of life in their desert refuge.”

BRINGING NOISE !!!

NOISE ?!?

Solar panels are bringing NOISE !!! LOL

and exactly WHAT POLLUTION ?!?

GEEZUM. YOU GOT SOME NEVER POSTING THIS CRAP.


32 posted on 05/22/2023 4:53:45 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: AZJeep

OH PLEASE?

“...“We feel like we’ve been sacrificed,” says Mark Carrington”

SACRIFICED ? WHERE DID THEY DIG UP THAT LOON.


33 posted on 05/22/2023 4:54:37 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: AZJeep

OH PLEASE !!!

“...which is increasingly surrounded by solar farms. “We’re a senior community, and half of us now have breathing difficulties because of all the dust churned up by the construction.”

LOTS OF BLEEPING DUST IN THE DESERT.

NOT THE FAULT OF CONSTRUCTION !


34 posted on 05/22/2023 4:55:45 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: AZJeep

OH PLEASE.

Complains of BREATHING PROBLEMS BUT WEARING GOGGLES NOT A MASK !

“...but some days I have to go outside wearing goggles. “


35 posted on 05/22/2023 4:56:45 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: AZJeep

OH PLEASE.

THIS PERSON JUST MOVED THERE !

““It has been psychologically gruelling,” says Teresa Pierce, who moved here six years ago. “From the constant pounding of the metal posts to the endless dust storms. I now have allergies that I’d never had before – my arms burn all day long and my nose is always running. I feel like a prisoner in my own home.””

COMPLAINING ABOUT TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION NOISE?

This person is complaining about the desert environment they just used to.


36 posted on 05/22/2023 5:00:10 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; 17th Miss Regt

640 acres per square mile. Check your math.


37 posted on 05/22/2023 6:36:37 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

I was awake with insomnia. I calculated the size in miles square, not square miles. In other words, how big is the square of land? sqrt(150000/640) = 15.3

The CA desert is huge, so a chunk 15 miles square isn’t much. But any argument against this idiocy is a useful argument.


38 posted on 05/22/2023 7:16:01 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else…)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
The CA desert is huge, so a chunk 15 miles square isn’t much. But any argument against this idiocy is a useful argument.

Agree on both points.

39 posted on 05/22/2023 7:59:52 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Pikachu_Dad

LOTS OF BLEEPING DUST IN THE DESERT.

NOT THE FAULT OF CONSTRUCTION !
= = =

Undisturbed desert is not dusty. Native plants hold it down.

Dust comes when the surface is disturbed, like from construction.


40 posted on 05/22/2023 8:50:38 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob
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