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Update from Ukraine | Wagners failed their main goal in Bakhmut | I was wrong about the city
Youtube.com ^ | 3-25-2023 | Denys Davydov

Posted on 03/25/2023 5:50:31 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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41 posted on 03/25/2023 8:33:34 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: kiryandil

Joke site? World doom everywhere— 40 NATO personnel in Kiev “vaporized” (wouldn’t Kiev also collateral wiped bigly?).


42 posted on 03/25/2023 8:42:44 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Widget Jr

—> I was talking about the content on the web sites, not the linked article.

OK. Then we agree that the article was not anti semitic.

And I did not (ever) read every article on a website to check just in case.

Instead, I read the posted article to examine whether it had the ring of credible info that is at least worthy of discussion and thought.

If a website simply doesn’t like Israel, that’s oK it’s just an opinion.
If they hate Jews that is unacceptable to me.
I do not always agree with my own nation’s choices at times.


43 posted on 03/25/2023 8:47:15 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

No worries.

I think after exhausting all peaceful options, nations fall back on war to settle differences. I know my nation does.

In this case, I think Putin had no other option than surrender.
Also that the west wants war.

So here we are.

I do not believe either side is run by good people.
I only feel for the citizens who suffer.


44 posted on 03/25/2023 8:50:03 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Finding good news sites and and filtering out bad one is much harder than it used to be.
I over reacted and did not handle this well as I could or should have, for that I apologize.
Thanks for keeping it civil.
45 posted on 03/25/2023 9:00:28 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

That was quite a nutty site you linked to but at least they solved the covid mystery.
“Documentary Proof: University of North Carolina Generated COVID-19”

And they quote Trump “Trump: World Will End if I am Jailed for a Rare Episode with a Highly Paid Adult ‘Partner’”
with terrible photos of him and women that we can’t post here and that I’ve never seen, and frankly think are photo-shopped.

They uncovered this “US and al Qaeda in Terror Operation to Kidnap Russians and Syrians in Syria”

And man do they hate Israel.

No wonder you guys post so much nonsense and crazy stuff here all day long.


46 posted on 03/25/2023 9:01:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Widget Jr

No problem. I appreciate the discussion.


47 posted on 03/25/2023 9:06:52 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: ansel12

Ansel, the skill you must develop is to read and think.

try it!


48 posted on 03/25/2023 9:08:06 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You need to learn discernment, rather than seeking out blogs and internet sites that feed you magical stories that you love to hear, seek valid information, and sources that are accurate and help you to know what is going on.

Seek out accurate and knowledgeable sources with good and useful information.


49 posted on 03/25/2023 9:14:47 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

—> Seek out accurate and knowledgeable sources with good and useful information.

I assume you mean the daily mail, or msn, or anonymous YouTube channels…

No thanks.

Thinking is always required.


50 posted on 03/25/2023 9:18:09 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“I think after exhausting all peaceful options, nations fall back on war to settle differences.”

But, THAT is the problem!

Ukraine is being invaded. There is no justification for Putin to ignore international law and the treaties he has signed to ensure Ukraine territory with existing borders i.e. The Budapest Memorandum. Putin’s invasion is in direct violation of Russia’s the series of political assurances he committed to : “respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine”.

You understand, this is not a war about settlement of differences.

What is evident is Russia desires to conquer and control Ukraine. Even people of Russia stand against invasion of Ukraine.


51 posted on 03/25/2023 10:07:39 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: ansel12

“Seek out accurate and knowledgeable sources with good and useful information.:”

I agree with your summation.

It is of utmost importance to find valid sources for information that are accurate and provide a truthful assessment.


52 posted on 03/25/2023 10:14:37 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Helpful clarity for a good news source:

PRIMARY SOURCE:
A primary source provide firsthand information and evidence, while secondary sources provide secondhand information and commentary. Try to determine purpose of the video, or film clip from: YouTube, Hulu, or news site/TV station as examples providing case studies, incidents, real-life situations that are impacted by something or someone, i.e. Russian invasion.

SECONDARY
A secondary source is one that describes an event or issue from a distance such as: encyclopedias, handbooks, guides, textbooks. Also, good secondary sources use primary sources to compile their information.


53 posted on 03/25/2023 10:57:51 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

—> There is no justification for Putin to ignore international law and the treaties he has signed to ensure Ukraine territory with existing borders i.e.

History in Europe says otherwise. Treaties are made and broken when they no longer serve the original purpose.

—> You understand, this is not a war about settlement of differences.

I disagree… it is.

—-> What is evident is Russia desires to conquer and control Ukraine.

I believe they will take the eastern half by the time this ends… barring the entry of the western homo democracies - which is what this was always about. They want war.


54 posted on 03/26/2023 5:45:31 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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Russia wants war and that is clear as they invaded. Russia also fears the West, which is why they will never attack a NATO country.

Thus, Finland and Sweden also wanting in NATO.


55 posted on 03/26/2023 5:49:50 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan Conservative: Economic Freedom, Peace through Strength, American Values- De Oppresso Liber)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

THERE STILL REMAINS:
No justification for Putin to ignore international law. Putin the original purpose of signing the treaties was to ensure Ukraine territory with existing borders.

Obviously, the whole world KNOWS Putin is not to be trusted.
This Russian invasion is NOT about settlement of difference: rather it is to conquer a weaker neighbor.

What is evident is PUTIN’S desires to conquer and control Ukraine. Even if Putin conquers Eastern Ukraine,

I believe they will take the eastern half by the time this ends. That does not JUSTIFY Putin by any means.

Putin wants a long destructive war to prove his faltering manhood & establish a legacy. A legacy of brutality toward his people as well as internationally.


56 posted on 03/26/2023 11:31:17 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

—> No justification for Putin to ignore international law. Putin the original purpose of signing the treaties was to ensure Ukraine territory with existing borders.

Disagree.

—> Obviously, the whole world KNOWS Putin is not to be trusted.
This Russian invasion is NOT about settlement of difference: rather it is to conquer a weaker neighbor.

Disagree… mind reading

—> What is evident is PUTIN’S desires to conquer and control Ukraine. Even if Putin conquers Eastern Ukraine,

—> disagree… mind reading

—> I believe they will take the eastern half by the time this ends. That does not JUSTIFY Putin by any means.

Disagree.

—> Putin wants a long destructive war to prove his faltering manhood & establish a legacy. A legacy of brutality toward his people as well as internationally.

Disagree… mind reading

🤗


57 posted on 03/26/2023 11:38:27 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
"Disagree… mind reading" No. Review facts. Historical proof is well-documentedas is Putin's behavior is an established threat to all. Time for his trial
58 posted on 03/26/2023 12:40:26 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Disagree


59 posted on 03/26/2023 12:57:19 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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