Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Wall Street — not taxpayers — will pay for the SVB and Signature deposit relief plans
CNBC.com ^ | 3/12/2023 | Christina Wilkie

Posted on 03/12/2023 7:14:06 PM PDT by Beave Meister

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-83 next last
To: Alberta's Child
I think too many people are engaging in conspiratorial nonsense here.

The number of zany and downright kooky comments is on the rise since COVID-19.

41 posted on 03/12/2023 8:27:47 PM PDT by Fury
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: usconservative

I cannot move now. It is set to drop maybe 5%.

It’s at 202.98 3/12/2023

It might be worse, I will let you know.


42 posted on 03/12/2023 8:28:28 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child
What was the “moral hazard” in the case of the SVB failure?

Excellent question...The term “moral hazard”, as applied to venture capitalism, has apparently gone out of vogue in the aftermath of the 2008 crash.

43 posted on 03/12/2023 8:30:55 PM PDT by PerConPat ( A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.- Mencken)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMind

“Joint” private member banking.

Probable member policy collusion upcoming to pass on cost of doing business to customers/consumers

In essence a quasi-private monopoly.

If enough blowback customers leaving may have effect
But where?


44 posted on 03/12/2023 8:32:40 PM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by🙏🙏 the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite prayer warriors. 10.5.6.5)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: gunnut
So let me understand this, accounts that the bank has not been paying premiums on for the FDIC insurance are now going to be covered by the insurance? That is one way to drive the program into the ground.

Banks pay FDIC premiums on total liabilities, not just insured balances.

45 posted on 03/12/2023 8:35:36 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: SomeCallMeTim
Of SVB employees who made political donations in the 2020 election cycle, 92% donated to Democrat candidates.

46 posted on 03/12/2023 8:36:10 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Toddsterpatriot
Um, SVG’s problem is simple. Their AFS assets values have declined in value. That’s what they need, or cash as if they already sold the assets. I’m not sure what it takes to reclassify other long term assets and sell them other than it is a real pain in the neck.

Understand, that’s just me figuring. It would be a good idea if Yellen provided details, but I bet she doesn’t want to because how people will interpret it, rightly or wrongly. It’s a scum bag move in my estimation. Trust is restored with fact and credibility. Yellen has zero credibility. Banks, haha, have zero credibility, at least for me. I worked for JP Morgan back in the 90’s a software engineer. I coded some of their tricks, err, I mean trading strategies.

47 posted on 03/12/2023 8:36:39 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?" Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: stylin19a

The dough always comes from the tax-payers, no made how they try to present it.

Also:

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/pause-goldman-no-longer-expects-fed-hike-march-due-stress-banking-system

And:

Thomas Massie
@RepThomasMassie
·
3h
Just got off of a zoom meeting with Fed, Treasury, FDIC, House, and Senate.

A Democrat Senator essentially asked whether there was a program in place to censor information on social media that could lead to a run on the banks.


48 posted on 03/12/2023 8:38:27 PM PDT by CFW (old and retired)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: CapnJack

Correct, as alluded to on another thread.

Quasi-private monopoly

Eg. “Become a gold-star member with our no service charge with a minimum balance of xxxxxxx.
(In other words all below are charged) Just one example

These member collusion policies may be intentionally delayed to deflect the “why”


49 posted on 03/12/2023 8:40:04 PM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by🙏🙏 the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite prayer warriors. 10.5.6.5)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: CapnJack

Yes, we will be paying higher fees to pay for it. It’s like they fined PG&E for fires, and everyone’s rates went up. They shouldn’t fine a corporation, but the person or persons who made the decisions that caused the problems. Maybe jail terms on top of fines.


50 posted on 03/12/2023 8:40:51 PM PDT by DejaJude (I'll be back, again.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMind
“For the banks that were put into receivership, the FDIC will use funds from the Deposit Insurance Fund to ensure that all of its depositors are made whole,” said a senior Treasury Department official…”

That's TAXPAYER MONEY!!

The brazenness by which this Government and the "news media" lie to us every damn' day is breathtaking.

Even more so is the fact that people believe this crap.

51 posted on 03/12/2023 8:42:00 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Beave Meister
You get what you pay for!


52 posted on 03/12/2023 8:43:36 PM PDT by montag813
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: usconservative

No, it is not taxpayer money.

It is insurance created by the member banks of the FDIC to cover deposits.

It is fully privately owned.


53 posted on 03/12/2023 8:45:32 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMind

I suspect they are still expecting a large number of bank withdrawals tomorrow.

“The Fed said it would make additional funding available to banks to ensure they have “the ability to meet the needs of all depositors.””


54 posted on 03/12/2023 8:46:27 PM PDT by CFW (old and retired)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMind
It is insurance created by the member banks of the FDIC to cover deposits.

Where did that money come from? Depositors. Who are depositors?

55 posted on 03/12/2023 8:47:47 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeInPA
Um, SVG’s problem is simple. Their AFS assets values have declined in value. That's what they need, or cash as if they already sold the assets.

Right. They'll get the cash they need from the Fed and the FDIC, not from BoA and JP Morgan.

56 posted on 03/12/2023 8:49:01 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: montag813
If there's a graph showing where the top 100 banks in America donate their money to, that'd tell the entire story about what's going on here.

It's always, ALWAYS follow the money!

57 posted on 03/12/2023 8:49:15 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: Beave Meister

“...Signature Bank will rely on Wall Street and large financial institutions — not taxpayers — to foot the bill, Treasury officials said.”

It’s absolutely amazing that the federal government still hasn’t learned that government is not there to make money. The Constitution assigned to Congress responsibility for organizing the executive and judicial branches, “raising revenue,” declaring war, and making all laws necessary for executing these powers.

Therefore, since their only source of money receiving is the American citizens through taxes or assessments, or profits from sales from overseas sales which is in representation of the people, then how are taxpayers not footing the bill?

Simple, they are telling you you aren’t...whether you are or not.

wy69


58 posted on 03/12/2023 8:49:52 PM PDT by whitney69
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: usconservative

No they-banks are actually a quasi-private monopoly.

The key here is monopoly. So “taxpayers” becomes customers/consumers, and the resourceful will need to be on top of their game in this devious environment.


59 posted on 03/12/2023 8:53:03 PM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by🙏🙏 the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite prayer warriors. 10.5.6.5)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

“Moral Hazard”...a couple of definitions:
“The risk that an individual or organization will behave recklessly or immorally when protected from the consequences.”
and
“The prospect that a party insulated from risk may behave differently from the way it would behave if it were fully exposed to the risk.”

The bailouts of 2008 set the stage for more bad/immoral behavior...there has to be consequences to clear out “mal-investment” and prevent further need for bailouts of depositors.

(This includes the venture capitol depositors at SVB).

“Risks are socialized and profits are privatized” is a moral failing.


60 posted on 03/12/2023 8:57:15 PM PDT by Drago
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-83 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson