Forget China’s spy balloon; military UFO incidents are far more intriguing

The Hill ^ | MARIK VON RENNENKAMPFF

[Vaduz]

There is a long history of UFO talk but none have ever been seen.

If there were UFO’s they would have to travel light years to get here lots of big rocks to dodge on that trip.

[Brilliant]

Holman Jenkins had a column in the WSJ the other day linking the Chinese balloon to the UFO craze. Says it’s all a conspiracy by the deep state to confuse us.

[RoosterRedux]

Holman Jenkins is thought by many to be a government disinformation agent himself. Held in low regard.

[RoosterRedux]

They’re thought to be extra-dimensional, not from distant planets or star systems.

The distant star thing is a strawman. Don’t you know that?

[RoosterRedux]

As an aside, the more we learn about whatever the hell this phenomenon is, the less we seem to know.

It doesn't appear (at all) to be classical space men from other planets. And it is much too elaborate to be mere government disinformation (aside from that, the government takes great pains to hide what it knows, not spread it as disinformation).

It might be better to keep an open mind and consider the growing mountain of evidence.

One thing that has really helped bring some clarity to this matter is that scientists like Garry Nolan of Stanford University are bringing the scientific method to the study of it.

It is always perplexing as to how the man in the street forms very specific conclusions as to what this is all about, yet scientists (including physicists) are chipping away at it, but still completely befuddled.

We just don't know what it is. Is it a complex kind of mass hallucination? If it is, how can it be picked up on our most advanced radar and sensors?

People who once said that these UFOs are solid craft and now saying that perhaps they were wrong. Reason: UFOs that look to be of a certain size on the exterior have vast interiors. And many people who have encountered them say that the craft themselves seem alive or at least to be something other than solid. Some people have even suggested that perhaps they are indeed hallucinations or something conjured up in our consciousness (even though they sometimes leave physical traces on the ground).

It's a mystery at this point. Any conclusions are mere shots in the dark.

[Sirius Lee]

If there were UFO’s they would have to travel light years to get here lots of big rocks to dodge on that trip.

Incorrect. Robotic probes piloted by AI and carrying the genetic material, or even the just the blueprints of that genetic material (some would say it's the same thing) or the originating civilization and robots advanced enough to build other robots to carry out various functions could be sent all over the galaxy at subliminal speeds and still have plenty of time to find life sustaining planets to colonize.

The UFOs people see would not be interstellar craft but rather more like shuttles built locally by the alien colonists. The raw materials to build could have been mined either by the alien robots, or by a species of the native fauna that had been genetically manipulated by the alien robots to serve as somewhat intelligent - but not too intelligent - worker bees.

[cgbg]

“none have ever been seen”

There are hundreds of thousands of people that claim they have been contacted by alien creatures coming from UFOs.

So—who do I take seriously—you who have no such experience or those other people who have those experiences?

I go for door number two.

[Vaduz]

people that claim they have been contacted by alien creatures coming from UFOs.

LOL how many pods did they find in the basement?.

[Vaduz]

Don’t buy any bridges

[cgbg]

Laugh all you want—human experience refuses to conform to your expectations.

[Vaduz]

Evidence list still blank no clear photos of any yet just fuzzy and far away shots.

No Sale

[Vaduz]

Mervin plans trip LOL

[RoosterRedux]

Are you familiar with the concept of "confirmation bias"?

The point of it is that when you make up your mind before you investigate or analyze something, you are prone to see what supports your bias and ignore everything else.

It's a kind of intellectual blindness.

What I'm selling to you (you said "no sale") is this: Keep an open mind when investigating or examining a complicated matter.

Doesn't that make sense to you?

If you can't keep an open mind, you need to ask yourself "Why? What am I afraid of?"

As an aside, scientists are now taking over the UFO topic, such as it is. Their conclusion is: We don't know what it is. The more we dig into the subject matter, the more complicated it gets.

[RoosterRedux]

Who’s Mervin?

[RoosterRedux]

I'm beginning to wonder if you had an abduction experience when you were a child. Your responses are illogical, but you are always on these threads with the same comments.

I don't mean this as a criticism. It's a very scary subject.

[cgbg]

The “intellectual blindness” is what I call “Elizabethan Epistemology”.

That means that some folks insist on a world with no shirts sticking out of drawers and no socks on the floor.

When they see or hear of such things they insist that they are the delusions of crazy people—since such things cannot exist in the perfectly ordered universe that they were taught about in school.

[cgbg]

The “intellectual blindness” is what I call “Elizabethan Epistemology”.

That means that some folks insist on a world with no shirts sticking out of drawers and no socks on the floor.

When they see or hear of such things they insist that they are the delusions of crazy people—since such things cannot exist in the perfectly ordered universe that they were taught about in school.

[Vaduz]

The point of it is that when you make up your mind before you investigate or analyze.

Yes like betting on your lottery number.

[Vaduz]

Space cartoon

[Sirius Lee]

Don’t buy any bridges

You sure as hell did.