Posted on 01/24/2023 3:39:27 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
“Expect terror attacks here...results of our meddling. Hope I am wrong.”
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Well... there are two opposing camps in this war :
The islamo-soviet inspired side:
The ones meddling and being co belligerent with Russia : Belarus, North Korea, Chechnya, IRAN, and the entire CSTO.
They are the ones attacking Ukraine.
The West’s side:
USA, NATO.
They are the ones defending Ukraine (and the West).
Are we meddlers? Not sure. We just can’t lose ground to Russia though.
Defense is morally just.
Its a bot.
They are on here to try and get valid long time people kicked off.
It’s their problem. Waste of our money IMHO. We should have stayed out...now we are going to catch terroristic blowback at the very least. You want effing Biden and the woke military running ww3?
Since when are the US and Ukraine "allies"?
On what basis, and according to who?
Well...
If you think that there is too much State and Big Government here in the USA right now under Biden, I agree with you - completely.
But... the alternative Big Government model in Russia is noting to yearn for either... The Russian model is actually on a whole other level.
In Russia, the State and oligarchs constitute a perfect mafia-like cartel that is 10 times more perverted than our own deep-state.
I see no hate against Russia on American TV.
But I see absolute disgusting and extreme hatred against the West on Russian TV (I see that thanks to VPN).
Not a day goes by on Russian TV without talk about how to eradicate Americans with nuclear weapons.
Russian TV has become a blood thirsty hell hole entirely controlled by the Russian STATE.
Everything you claim to despise about Russia and the Soviet Union the Biden regime is trying to implement here in America yet you want to fight a war 5000 miles away overseas on behalf of sponging Eurotrash. Pathetic.
I wonder how enthusiastic many will be about this war when the electrical grid goes down long term in the middle of Winter(?)
“Since when are the US and Ukraine “allies”?”
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Answer:
According to who : Both Republican and Democrat administrations.
On what basis : The Budapest Memorandum, signed by the USA in 1991.
Explanation:
In the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, the United States, Russia, and Britain committed “to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine” and “to refrain from the threat or use of force” against the country. Those ASSURANCES played a key role in persuading the Ukrainian government in Kyiv to give up what amounted to the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal, consisting of some 1,900 strategic nuclear warheads.
When the USSR broke up in late 1991, there were nuclear weapons scattered in the resulting post-Soviet states. The George H. W. Bush administration attached highest priority to ensuring this would not lead to an increase in the number of nuclear weapons states.
That was the moment (1991) America and Ukraine became allies. Bush was President.
UKRAINE kept its promise of the Budapest Memorandum deal, they got rid of all their nuclear arsenal. That made the USA very happy.
RUSSIA violated the Budapest Memorandum deal in 2014, by land-grabbing and annexing Crimea (part of Ukraine).
USA kept its promise in assuring a response to Russia in case it would one day violate the deal (Russia violated it in 2014). Obama didn’t do much though.
Trump however was proactive in keeping the promise of assuring military help to Ukraine. He sent loads of high-tech weaponry to Ukraine (to help it defend itself) and has been the toughest on Russia in many ways.
When Biden became President, Trumps policies towards Ukraine were continued and even enhanced... simply because Russia went further and attacked whole of Ukraine.
America is not fighting a war in Ukraine. You are wrong.
There are no American troops on the ground in Ukraine.
Ukrainians are fighting the war themselves. It’s THEIR blood. Not Americans blood.
You remember the Vietnam war? Maybe you are too young.
The USA fought the commies there, protecting the world from Soviet nihilism.
Some Americans didn’t want to resist the communist / Soviet agenda back then. Do you know how those pro-Vietnam and pro-Russian Americans were called in those days? We called them “lefties” and “hippies”.
So let me say this. Your unwillingness to defend America and its allies against todays Russian expansionism and Russias reactivation of its old Soviet habits make you suspiciously look like a hippie from the 60’s.
4 months ago you would have been telling me that only “defensive” weapons would ever be deployed to the Ukraine. Now we are shipping top of the line battle tanks. This is classic runaway escalation and it could get very ugly very fast yet you Zelensky fanboys keep squealing rod more.
... Now, if only U.S. could dump our corrupt government officials their family members, and lobbyists!
President Trump proved just how hard it is to remove ‘ thedeep state.’
“In an address Sunday, Zelenskyy said Ukraine’s focus on the Russian invasion would not stop his government from tackling corruption, pledging: “There will be no return to what used to be in the past.”
Analysts say Zelenskyy’s message was that corruption won’t be tolerated.
“It’s very hard to save the country when there’s corruption,” Andrii Borovyk, the executive director of Transparency International Ukraine, a nonprofit organization that fights corruption, told The Associated Press.
Ukrainian political analyst Volodymyr Fesenko told AP the shake-up was “intended to remind officials of the entire (power) vertical that the authorities plan to continue to fight corruption in Ukraine, especially during the war, when literally everything in the country is in short supply.”
Fesenko, head of the Kyiv-based Penta Center independent think tank, said Ukrainian authorities and Western officials couldn’t simply “turn a blind eye on latest scandals.”
“In the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, the United States, Russia, and Britain committed “to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine” and “to refrain from the threat or use of force” against the country.
Those ASSURANCES played a key role in persuading the Ukrainian government in Kyiv to give up what amounted to the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal, consisting of some 1,900 strategic nuclear warheads.”
Excellent Comment!
VIDEO
1. Russian agents making Cold War-style defections speak with CNN
Jan 24, 2023 11:30 P.M. EST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ul9e3aO2g4
CNN’s Melissa Bell speaks with two defectors from the FSB, Russia’s federal security service, and reports on the danger they now face for speaking out against Vladimir Putin.
2. Russian Army Failure! 6 Attacks Were Repelled by Ukraine
Stone News
Jan 24, 2023 7:30 P.M. EST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZ_c2DUNBc
3. An Enormous Turkish Convoy ENCIRCLE thousands of Russian soldiers in Bakhmut!
Ultimate Ukraine
Jan 23, 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smMFWS_zSiQ
An Enormous Turkish Convoy ENCIRCLE thousands of Russian soldiers in Bakhmut!
4. 24 Jan: TURN THE TABLES. Ukrainians SUCCESSFULLY PUSH BACK | War in Ukraine Explained
Reporting from Ukraine
Jan 24, 2023 6:00 P.M. EST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6C-5CTe6_Q
Ukraine needs USA and German Tank Drivers to run them—gas line to fuel them and experts to keep them rolling. Maybe some fighter planes to protect them too. How long before we are involved? Weeks? Days? WW III APril 1st.
That was before Russia invaded Ukraine.
Does Zelensky have multiple mansions outside of Ukraine?
“Zelensky”
Glad you asked. Maybe, this article will provide facts to relieve these fraudulent Russian disinformation conjectures.
Forbes
Billionaires
President Zelensky Is Not A Billionaire. So How Much Is He Worth?
Apr 20, 2022,08:58am EDT
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2022/04/20/president-zelensky-is-not-a-billionaire-so-how-much-is-he-worth/?sh=38ba19a05bb0
EXCERPT: Despite social media reports claiming he’s a billionaire, Volodymyr Zelensky doesn’t come close to making Forbes’ global wealth rankings.
“A popular internet meme currently making the rounds claims without evidence that Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky is worth $1.4 billion – “more than Will Smith, Chris Rock, and Dave Chapelle combined.”
The insinuation is clear. For Zelensky, a former comedian, to have accumulated a fortune of this size, there must be corruption involved. And while this claim has been parroted by its fair share of anonymous Twitter eggs, a number of blue checks have gotten in on the action.”
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