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Update from Ukraine | No Leopard Tanks were agreed for Ukraine | Big failure or not?
Youtube.com ^ | 1-20-2023 | Denys Davydov

Posted on 01/20/2023 5:21:33 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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To: Paul R.

“One of the restrictions on US weapons to Ukraine has been range (true), and then the railgun for Ukraine is stated to have a range of several hundred miles.”

I found the “Elon’s Musk Electromagnetic Railgun a fascinating invention. The video states Musk’s interest was not just for weaponry, but also a cheap way to launch Starlink satellites into orbit created his interest in the project.

Anyway, I found the possibility of developing the railgun with potential projectile capable of reaching hypersonic speeds using KINETIC ENERGY totally amazing. Apparently, the Chinese has designed a version [6:00] for sea deployment when the huge landing ship the hayanshun enterS service in the Chinese navy [6:07].

IF ONLY the using kinetic energy would be used to develop the 300 megawatt battery to power 500 000 households for one hour!!! What a transformation for the power grid. [9:37] The potential utilization of KINETIC ENERGY for a positive energy application just amazes me.


41 posted on 01/20/2023 11:16:24 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: All; ransomnote

SOURCE INFORMATION: NOT TYPICALLY CONSERVATIVE

1. ECONOMIST
The Economist is very liberal (left wing) on social issues, but conservative (centre right) on economic issues. Now seems to slowly edge further and further left on economic issues.

What the magazine says for itself:

“What, besides free trade and free markets, does The Economist believe in? “It is to the Radicals that The Economist still likes to think of itself as belonging. The extreme centre is the paper’s historical position.”
As true today as when former Economist editor Geoffrey Crowther said it in 1955.

The Economist considers itself the enemy of privilege, pomposity and predictability. It has backed conservatives such as Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. It has supported the Americans in Vietnam. But it has also endorsed Harold Wilson and Bill Clinton, and espoused a variety of liberal causes: opposing capital punishment from its earliest days, while favouring penal reform and decolonisation, as well as—more recently—gun control and gay marriage.”

“However, now edging slowly further and further left on economic issues.” The Economist is owned by the Economist Group, which is a British multinational media company. They are primarily owned by the Cadbury, ROTHSCHILD, Schroder [3rd-way politics of Bill Clinton], Layton, and Agnelli families.

***A 2014 Pew Research Survey found that 59% of the ECONOMIST AUDIENCE is consistently or mostly liberal, 24% Mixed, and 18% consistently or mostly conservative.
This indicates that a more liberal audience prefers the Economist.

2. THE DURAN [Country: Cyprus]
LOW FACTUAL REPORTING LOW CREDIBILITY Questionable source with promotion of Russian propaganda, a lack of transparency, use of poor sources, plagiarism, and failed fact checks.
*The Duran’s director is Peter Lavelle, the host of RT’s (Russian state news outlet) political debate program CrossTalk.

[The Duran publishes news and opinions from a pro-Russian perspective. Some stories copied and pasted directly from the pro-Russian Strategic Culture Foundation. All articles involving Russia are generally positively slanted with many articles poorly sourced from Russian Propaganda outlets such as RT and Sputnik.

The Duran routinely publishes pro-Russian propaganda through the use of poorly sourced, plagiarized news articles.
SUMMARY The Duran as a Questionable source based on far-right-wing bias, promotion of Russian propaganda, right-wing conspiracies, a lack of transparency, use of poor sources, plagiarism, and failed fact checks.


42 posted on 01/20/2023 11:54:50 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: All; Lonely Are The Brave
Ukrainian boxer Alexander Usyk announced that he is donating 8 million to the restoration of the destroyed apartment building in Irpen, - "I give all, we will collect another 4 million and about 40 families will be able to return to their apartments"
43 posted on 01/21/2023 12:28:55 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Ukrainian boxer Oleksandr Usyk dedicates a historic victory that saw him retain his world heavyweight titles to his war-torn homeland.

The 35-year-old, who has served in Ukraine’s army. Usyk was praised by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy after the boxer celebrated with a Ukrainian flag signed by his country’s soldiers.

“It was extremely important for my country, for my team and personally for me. I fought for the whole country and half of the world,” Usyk said.

“I devote this victory to my country, to my family, to my team, to all the military defending this country. Thank you very, very much.”

“Defending the title of the world champion is a symbol of the fact that all Cossacks will not give up theirs, will fight for it and will definitely win!”

Usyk is already considered a national hero by many in war-torn Ukraine, where he took up arms with the country’s defense force after Russia’s invasion in February.

1. I devote this victory to my country!” 💙💛 | An emotional Usyk dedicates win over Joshua to Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5cKQwLL4t0

2. Ukrainian boxer Oleksandr Usyk devotes his world title win to war-torn homeland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS7PlRaC5Kc

3. Heavyweight Boxing champion Oleksandr Usyk * Ukraine * Ukraine war footage
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3tANsbBr79Q


44 posted on 01/21/2023 12:30:33 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: All

Patched Up Souls: US plastic surgeons operate on Ukrainians whose faces were scarred by the war. Photo story
Reporters
Photo: Danil Pavlov and Test: Olga Omelyanchuk
[PHOTOS AT LINK]
https://reporters.media/en/patched-up-souls/

The hospital elevator groans under the weight of a dozen passengers—patients and doctors—climbing to the upper floors. The 745-bed Ivano-Frankivsk Regional Clinical Hospital receives about 25,000 patients every year. It is never empty here: 15 local surgical departments perform approximately 15,000 operations a year.

“But the ones you are about to witness,” says one of the doctors, “are completely new for us. There has never been a similar exchange of experience between Ukrainian and American doctors.”

In the long corridor, ENT specialist Dr. Nataliia Komashko immediately attracts everyone’s attention. She hurries between the manipulation room and the wards, ever so slightly worried, holding in her hands the personal files of numerous patients. Today is a big day for her and other local doctors because it is the start of a new joint mission of American and Ukrainian surgeons—“FACE TO FACE Ukrainian Medical Mission” organized by the American Academy of Facial Plastic & Reconstructive Surgery together with the Razom for Ukraine and Ingenius organizations.

Back in the summer, colleagues from the United States offered the doctor to jointly perform several dozen plastic and reconstructive operations for the Ukrainians who suffered from Russian aggression. Before that, Ukrainian by birth, otolaryngologist Ivanka Nebor applied to other medical institutions, but in the end only the Ivano-Frankivsk Regional Clinical Hospital was able to take on the mission.

Two medical coordinators, Nataliia Komashko from Ukraine and Ivanka Nebor from the USA, rallied a total of over one hundred colleagues. 10 experienced American surgeons came to operate, and 130 to 150 medics watched the live broadcast of their joint work with Ivano-Frankivsk doctors at different times.

The Americans brought a lot of equipment and medicines. In four days, together with their Ukrainian colleagues, they operated on a total of 35 patients who were wounded to the head, neck, ears, eyes, and throat.

At first, they planned to involve in the program only military personnel and the veterans of the Russian-Ukrainian war. But when applications began to arrive, the doctors agreed to treat civilians as well. After all, civilians make up about 15% of the total number of their patients.

The doctors held a joint consultation for each patient. Being in different time zones, they discussed and consulted about how to help as many people as possible in a short period of time.

“For some of the patients,” says Komashko, “we even ordered prosthetics.” Bioengineers from Belgium wrote to me on Facebook that they can use a CT scan to 3D print parts of the missing bones, such as cheekbones or lower jaw. We discussed their offer, engaged them in our consultations, and everything worked out!

Since the spring of 2014, and especially since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, Ukrainian civilians and military have been suffering from Russian aggression literally every day. Russia tortures, kills and injures us. Russia fires mines, shells, missiles and bombs day and night. Over the past seven months, the occupiers have injured tens of thousands of our men and women. It is impossible to tell about everyone, although behind each one of them there is a great human story of struggle and pain.

This photo story is our way to thank the Ukrainian and American doctors and call on the world to keep providing comprehensive assistance to Ukraine.

Roman Belinskyi, 42, a soldier of the 72nd Separate Mechanized Brigade named after the Black Zaporozhians (Kolomyia, Ivano-Frankivsk region)

In May 2022, Roman was seriously wounded in a tank battle in Zaporizhzhia. He lost an eye and a part of his jaw, and suffered numerous shrapnel wounds. Roman’s surgery in Ivano-Frankivsk lasted about 10 hours and was one of the most difficult. Doctors predict at least one more surgical intervention for the man, six months after which he will be able to receive an eye prosthesis. Belinskyi remains an active serviceman of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and plans to try himself as a combat training instructor.

Polina Chervakova, 44, saleswoman (Bucha, Kyiv region)

On March 2, Russians shot Polina Chervakova’s car from a tank near Myrotske village in the Kyiv region. The woman and her stepson managed to jump out of the car and run into the cottage co-op. But there they were shot by an enemy sniper: two of his bullets hit Polina’s shoulder blade and jaw, and the third one hit her 28-year-old stepson Vladyslav in the leg. The woman suggested that the immobilized boy play dead and in the meantime ran to look for help. Chervakova bumped into some people a few times, but they were very frightened and simply ran away.

In a pain shock, Polina wandered the roads and forests for several days, and then noticed a Russian checkpoint. Enemy soldiers gave her a white bag and armband: they said that if she walked between their tanks with the bag held up, the Russians would not shoot. Chervakova had no choice: she kept going and by pure miracle reached Blystavitsia, a village near Bucha, where her mother lived.

While looking for his wife and son at the place where a Russian tank shot their car, Polina’s husband was instead captured. Russians beat him and then stripped him to check for patriotic tattoos. Having made sure that the man is not a Ukrainian soldier, they let him go. Polina did not receive proper medical care until the deoccupation of Kyiv Region on April 1. Her stepson is still not at home. According to their relatives, Russians captured the boy and took him to one of their border towns.

Danylo Yevtukhov, 37, senior soldier of the 1st separate tank brigade (Kyiv)

On March 5, an explosion occurred on the territory of an abandoned car service station near Chernihiv, where Yevtukhov’s unit was stationed. As a result of the tragedy, the man received multiple burns on his face and body and barely survived. Comrades evacuated Danylo to Chernihiv, which at the time was being massively attacked by the Russian air force. Before the war, Yevtukhov was a sociologist, and he refused the disabled status, because after operations and recovery, he hopes to return to military service and continue fighting. The man is unconcerned about the scars on his face. The main problem, he says, is the eyelids that were affected by the burns, and now his eyes do not close completely even during sleep.

Roman Holovnev, 36, construction worker (Mariupol, Donetsk region)

On March 28, a half-ton Russian FAB-500 airbomb hit the Romanovs’ house in Mariupol. When the man and his surviving neighbors were moving their personal belongings from one entrance to another, they encountered the Kadyrovtsy [forces operating under Chechen Prime Minister Ramzan Kadyrov—R.]. The Russians started shooting at Roman: first they hit him in the leg with a machine gun, and when the man fell to the ground, they threw a grenade at him. Exhausted and seriously wounded, he could not get help for several days and hid from enemy air raids near his own home.

Realizing that the only chance to survive is evacuation, the man left Mariupol on foot. On the way to the village of Sopyne, he came across a checkpoint and asked for help. The Russians surprisingly took pity and took the wounded man to Novoazovsk, and then to Donetsk. After receiving medical help, the man was getting out of the occupied territory for several weeks. In order to leave Donetsk, Roman collected money from his friends and acquaintances. For 300 euros, a driver got him through Russia to Latvia and Poland. From Poland, Holovnev came to Kyiv: he found a job and now dreams of starting a new life in the capital.

Vitalyi Zubovych, 41, veteran and volunteer (Kryvyi Rih, Sicheslav region)

At the beginning of the full-scale invasion, Vitalyi Zubovych came from Kryvyi Rih to Kyiv. An experienced veteran of the Anti-Terrorist Operation, he was afraid that official mobilization would prevent him from quickly joining the defense of Ukraine, so he got to the front as an enlisted person with one of the volunteer units. On March 20, the man blew himself up on a landmine near Baryshivka village in the Kyiv region. Several foreign volunteers were traveling in the car with the man, but only Zubovych was seriously injured. Vitalyi lost his foot, his body was cut by shrapnel and his tendons were ruptured. While preparing for an operation in Ivano-Frankivsk, he translated epicrises into English for other patients. As soon as he finishes his treatment, Zubovych plans to return to service. He says he will fight until the victory.

Hlib Ivankovich, 21, student (Bilhorod-Dnistrovskyi, Odesa region)

Hlib was injured in the Russian missile strike on Serhiiivka village, Odesa region. On the night of July 1, Russia hit the resort village with three Kh-22 missiles fired from Tu-22 aircraft in the Black Sea. The rockets hit the high-rise building and “Goji” recreation center , where the boy was celebrating his bachelor’s degree. A total of 22 people died from that shelling. Hlib, four of his friends and more than 35 civilians received injuries of varying severity. After one of the regular surgeries on his face, the doctors took out from the boy’s cheekbones fragments of glass that would take up a half-liter can. Some of the debris will remain inside his body forever.

Tetiana Pshenуchna, 55, retired (Izium, Kharkiv region)

Tetyana was injured by a fragment of a large-caliber mine in the yard of her husband’s house in the village of Kamianka near Izium. The woman lit the stove that day to warm up: Russians noticed the signs of life in the house and targeted it with mortar fire. Half of Pshenуchnya’s face was cut, her teeth were knocked out and her tongue was torn apart.

For the first few hours after being wounded, Tetiana had to hide in the basement: her relatives gave her first aid. When the shelling ended, they evacuated the woman first to Sviatohirsk, and then to Sloviansk. In the Donetsk region, Tetiana finally had her wounds stitched up, but they left big scars. However, much bigger ones, the woman says, remained on her heart when, after the deoccupation, she saw what Russians had done to her native town of Izium.


45 posted on 01/21/2023 12:56:10 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: All

ADDENDUM:

IMPORTANT! Bring those who really need it

Danilo Yevtukhov with tank Seversk brigade received burns of face and body under Chernihiv in March last year.
He was didn’t care at all about the aesthetic ingredient of a future intervention: the only thing he wanted after surgery was to regain the ability to close his eyes.
- this makes sleeping normally impossible, and without the quality of life.

In September, Ukrainian doctors and the mission of American surgeons “FACE TO FACE Ukrainian Medical Mission”, organized by the American Association of Plastic Surgeons and a number of charities, operated in Ivano-Frankivsk a total of 35 patients, as and had wounds on the head, neck, ears, eyes, throat. And they returned the opportunity to close their eyes.

AT THE END OF MARCH, American surgeons plan to return to Ukraine. But, even under the most favorable circumstances, they can’t operate all the victims of war. Therefore, Ukrainians must be saved by Ukraine public and private clinics, which have united in the “Still Strong” initiative.

If you or a loved one needs surgery and are military or civilian with head and neck injury, fill out the form https://forms.gle/xyXJxvo4SJY45vWL7.

For more information:
Tel. +38066674998
Email: stillstrongua@gmail.com


46 posted on 01/21/2023 1:02:56 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

bttt


47 posted on 01/21/2023 1:07:00 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: Golden Eagle; UMCRevMom@aol.com

Correct.

And, without the capacity to shoot down the variety of (anti-personnel, anti-materiel, and anti-vehicle, in addition to recon) hovering drones . . . the tanks plus the tanks’ maintenance systems and trains, would be short-lived.

Probably have better performance by using (for example) Roshel “Senator” armored vehicles that are modified for launching TOW and other MAN type missiles.

That, in addition to anti-air-hovering-drone vehicles.


48 posted on 01/21/2023 1:26:07 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

The simple answer is that materials science has not produced any material that can withstand the sort of forces generated for more that a few rounds when the barrel is warn out.

Therefore, after one or two shots the gun is useless.


49 posted on 01/21/2023 3:42:57 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: linMcHlp

“Roshel “Senator” armored vehicles that are modified for launching TOW and other MAN type missiles.”

Appreciate your thoughtful comment.

I learned that as part of military aid following the Russian invasion of Ukraine on February 24 2022, the Canadian government donated 8 Roshel Senator APCs to the Ukrainian Ground Forces.

ON 18 JANUARY 2023, the Canadian government announced a further donation of another 200 Roshel Senator APCs!!

I found this great 360 degree view of the Senator APC:
https://roshel.ca/products/law-enforcement/senator-apc/


50 posted on 01/21/2023 3:55:13 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Both publications have superior reliability to that of the 'Ukrainian pilot' who is quoted as gospel truth by those vigorously advocating for Biden's and Zelensky's continued program of graft in the Ukraine.


51 posted on 01/21/2023 5:42:12 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: buwaya; BeauBo; All
buwaya...your post is absolutely 100% correct. It accurately describes the RU air force current capability, which is close to worthless.

If they could overfly Ukraine with reasonable safety they could drop far more ordnance far more accurately. And cheaply.

I'm not sure I would agree with "more accurately". However, the explosive weight of an entire RU cruise missile strike does not equal the explosive weight of one B-52 sortie.

I laugh every time a russian troll cheers for their cruise missile strikes.

This lack of air superiority also makes it nearly impossible to conduct interdiction...

IMHO, this is why UKR will continue to fight as long as NATO continues to supply.

Again, your entire post is worth reading and re-reading.

Thanks for posting!

52 posted on 01/21/2023 7:34:00 AM PST by FtrPilot
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Unfortunately, except for propaganda purposes, the railgun is more or less a technological dead end;

1. It cannot fire explosive projectiles - it can only fire inert projectiles at very high velocities. The normal fuze-booster-explosive fill cannot be as yet designed to withstand the enormous EMPs generated to fire the projectile. It is a direct fire weapon - anything further than line of sight will be at rapidly reducing velocity due to air drag and at serious longer ranges, you are essentially throwing a brick.

2. The Railgun uses immense amounts of current to fire their projectiles. Siting one near to adequate electric generation sites would necessarily leave them convenient for targeting. That, and the EMP generated at launch is a very easily detected signature.

3.Dang things are large too - see the above for what happens if you are detected.

4. Individual guidance of projectiles is also precluded by the aforementioned EMP loads. Without final guidance, the railgun becomes the Paris Gun without explosives. The WWI Paris Gun had a Range Probable Error the size of - Paris - and was strictly a "to-whom-it-may-concern" random terror weapon and useless tactically and strategically.

5. The Railgun eats its rails; each shot erodes much of the launch rails. Last I heard, they last four shots or so.

Musk is an industrial genius, but even he can't overcome physics.

53 posted on 01/21/2023 7:59:13 AM PST by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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To: ransomnote

“Both publications have superior reliability

No. Exactly the opposite.

But, I honor your freedom of thought and expression.

It is extremely important to check your sources to avoid being subjected to propaganda.

Check out to help discernment of Russian propaganda:
1- Fact vs. Fiction: Russian Disinformation on Ukraine
https://www.state.gov/fact-vs-fiction-russian-disinformation-on-ukraine/

2- How Russia’s unanswered propaganda led to the war in Ukraine
https://theconversation.com/how-russias-unanswered-propaganda-led-to-the-war-in-ukraine-180202


54 posted on 01/21/2023 10:11:01 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Small electromagnetic rail guns have limited used in research applications based on their efficiency and precision in launching projectiles at high velocities. However, no one has yet fielded one as a working military weapon. The US Zumwalt class destroyers were originally intended to have them as long range guns, but the cost of the tungsten projectiles was prohibitive and conventional guns were substituted.
55 posted on 01/21/2023 12:31:58 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: DesertRhino

“ The neocons are trying like hell to keep Germany in line. People there are angry about the nutty sacrifices, and unhappy that we blew up Nordstream. We want to force them into deeper involvement.”
****************************************************************************

The Germans should be unhappy as it slowly dawns on them that their “friends” are gleefully watching Germany be financially bled and the process of DEINDUSTRIALIZATION of Germany take hold.


56 posted on 01/21/2023 12:41:35 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Wow, what a hotbed of trash you posted to me. A new fabrication for the war in the Ukraine! Now the lie is that it’s because there wasn’t pushback on Russian propaganda! You people have it easy because you just make up whatever you want to be real when the rest of us have to dig for information that’s valid.


58 posted on 01/21/2023 2:05:27 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

https://t.me/mangopress/12681


59 posted on 01/21/2023 2:42:30 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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