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Anybody Have Experience with Virtual Credit Cards?
FreeRepublic | December 28, 2022 | ProtectOurFreedom

Posted on 12/28/2022 11:03:23 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom

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To: higgmeister

“[I wouldn’t] trust those fly-by-night strangers with my credit card.”

That’s not the way it works. The beauty of the system is that you never give your card to the driver or delivery person. You set up an account with the Uber, DoorDash, etc COMPANY and put your number on their corporate system. The driver never sees it and doesn’t handle your card. On Uber, the driver never even sees your last name or your rating of the driver.

When you order an Uber ride, you do it through their app. They charge your credit card and they pay the driver.


41 posted on 12/28/2022 1:21:41 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker)
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To: 1Old Pro
We don't own a BMW, have never bought BMW parts

Consider yourself lucky, it gets expensive :)


Indeed. In fact, the high price of BMW parts has been known to force otherwise upstanding citizens into a life of crime.
42 posted on 12/28/2022 1:24:36 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? (Luke 18:8))
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To: DarrellZero

It was really weird — neither CapitalOne nor Citi tell you in advance which of their many cards have the virtual cc feature. Both companies say the feature is available on “select cards.”

The last thing I wanted to do was get a new card and find out it wasn’t a “select” one. So I spent a lot of time looking for a simple table of features and making phone calls to see if a human might know. The person at the CapitalOne credit card department even told me that they don’t have that information!

I FINALLY found a CapitalOne Venture One card with no annual fee and, buried on page 20 of the fine print agreement, was a line saying I would get a virtual card feature.

I cannot believe how hard it was to suss out that little bit of info. It’s almost like they don’t want their customers to know about this feature. Maybe if too many people use it, they will run out of available cc numbers.


43 posted on 12/28/2022 1:26:07 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Those are the fraud charges that showed up on our credit card. What gets me is those merchants know EXACTLY who was in the vehicles or had the food delivered. But you can’t get them to divulge any info about the crooks.

Yup. My wife used an infrequently used card at a Subway in Georgia. She reported it to the Credit Card folks, but also to the Subway in question. They didn't want to know anything about anybody.


44 posted on 12/28/2022 1:28:10 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? (Luke 18:8))
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To: higgmeister

Thanks. Yes, I’ve concluded it’s either the auto-pays or the small/medium size merchants where I supply my cc number.

Some of our local merchants with my card for auto-pay are small and probably easily hacked. Our water district, our local newspaper, a company that operates parking lots in town (I buy an annual pass), etc. Do they use secure payment services and only store a hash of your number? Or do they store the cc number in the clear in an unprotected database?

From now on, we are only going to use the virtual cc numbers from our new CapitalOne account.


45 posted on 12/28/2022 1:29:50 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker)
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To: Bayard

Once you report a fraudulent transaction, the cc company shuts off the card while you are on the call! It’s over. There’s no turning it back on. They send you new cards and then the fun commences setting up the auto-pays again.

But I’ve had it! I just got a new CapitalOne card and am going to use the virtual cc feature from now on. We will use our old Chase Visa physical card for local purchases (and make sure it doesn’t leave our hands and the readers don’t have obvious skimmers).


46 posted on 12/28/2022 1:32:07 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker)
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To: moovova

I took my daughters to Brazil for a ten day trip about 15 years ago. Before I left, I called the cc company and said “I’ll be in Brazil from xxx to yyy,” so these transactions will be genuine.

On the second day in Brazil, we were getting gasoline and found the card had been shut off! Even though I had told them in advance of our trip!


47 posted on 12/28/2022 1:34:16 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker)
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To: algore

Sorry, I only provide it for those guys needing replacement $1,000 original factory issue BMW radiator caps.


48 posted on 12/28/2022 1:36:05 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
That's good to know, but I still don't trust the whole idea of it.   Conservative means not Progressive.   Uber, Lyft, DoorDash, and any of the other overnight sensations are all Progressive concepts that I reject.   It's like American Idol has no credibility because they are group-think manufactured stars.   It's all hokum.
49 posted on 12/28/2022 1:38:50 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“Sorry, I only provide it for those guys needing replacement $1,000 original factory issue BMW radiator caps.”

They are really not that expensive unless you have the dealer install it.


50 posted on 12/28/2022 1:39:19 PM PST by algore
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Let us know some time next year what you think about it.


51 posted on 12/28/2022 1:40:58 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Now that you mention it, same thing happened in Chicago with our card...while buying tickets to a museum. At least it wasn’t Brazil!


52 posted on 12/28/2022 1:44:54 PM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
That’s great you identified the one gas station where the fraud happened. Did you contact the station owner?

The gas station and police aren't interested. I know what happened but can't prove it. This happened in October and I'm still trying to get the CC company to refund the charges. My wife returns from a short trip to NJ tomorrow. She has cash for gas.

53 posted on 12/28/2022 1:46:46 PM PST by alephnull (Islam is not a religion of peace. It is a cult of death.)
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To: algore

I think dealer installation only gets it up to $700. The extra $300 is for the extended warranty.


54 posted on 12/28/2022 1:47:20 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker)
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To: alephnull

“I’m still trying to get the CC company to refund the charges.” — wow, that’s horrible. I’ve had much better luck getting fraud reversed.

It is a LOT easier to get your money back when the card was NOT in the possession of the crook. If they can show the person had the card in their possession, then your job is a lot harder.


55 posted on 12/28/2022 1:49:06 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
“I’m still trying to get the CC company to refund the charges.” — wow, that’s horrible. I’ve had much better luck getting fraud reversed.

The difficulty has been more due to their incompetence than giving me a hard time.

56 posted on 12/28/2022 1:58:40 PM PST by alephnull (Islam is not a religion of peace. It is a cult of death.)
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To: Red Badger

Yes they work great. You can lock them after use as well.


57 posted on 12/28/2022 2:37:05 PM PST by pas
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Some things don’t add up in your post/questions...

I’ve had a credit card number compromised twice in my entire life - one was attributable to a restaurant (that was found to have an employee who was taking pictures with her cell phone of front/back and then using it to buy gift cards to send to an address in Mexico).

The other from a major retailer who was hacked and had crappy security.

More credit card numbers are “stolen” by willing consumers who fall for pfishing scams, and/or malware on their computer (or device), OR that carelessly use their devices on open wifi connections with no protection running (why I always use a VPN anywhere but in my home).


58 posted on 12/28/2022 4:48:46 PM PST by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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To: TheBattman

Nope, not one of those three you suggest:
1. No use of public networks for secure communications. We RARELY use public wifi networks. I access wifi via my iPhone hotspot.
2. No malware on our Macs, iPhones or iPads
3. We are far too smart to fall for phishing scams


59 posted on 12/28/2022 6:56:41 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker)
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