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A Saturday Rant
11/20/2022 | ExGeeEye

Posted on 11/20/2022 4:22:14 AM PST by ExGeeEye

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To: ExGeeEye

Not a fan of taxes either. I try to remind myself that trash/recycling pickup in my town is part of that number.

In WI we are also paying for, aside for the public schools, the area technical colleges which interestingly have what I would call a corporate welfare program: instead a person going out and taking out a loan to create their own facility and buy equipment to manufacture a food product for sale, a person can pay a membership fee, store ingredients and rent the kitchen hourly to make it. You should see the kitchen in my hometown—it is enormous and has absolutely everything. Best the taxpayers can buy. I think there are about 10 businesses using it.

My favorite dumb tax is the sales tax collected on used stuff. How many times is a car taxed over its useful life? And resale shops, right down to half used up spools of thread, everything gets taxed.


61 posted on 11/20/2022 7:56:50 AM PST by SovereignJ (Dumb taxes)
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To: wintertime

“Also as a former business owner, the government forced me to be their **unpaid**tax collector. Hm?...**Unpaid**...**Forced** worker? Isn’t that the definition of SLAVE!”

You’re exactly right, which bring up one more pet peeve; arresting store clerks and waiters for selling alcohol and tobacco to underage people. The government is forcing these people to act as law enforcement. Arrest the minor, not the clerk. The minor knows he’s not supposed to be buying it.


62 posted on 11/20/2022 8:13:57 AM PST by suthener ( )
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To: Openurmind
It is straight up taxation without representation.

I don't know about you, but I do get to vote against millage increases, that always seem to pass anyway.

63 posted on 11/20/2022 8:55:50 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Openurmind

I live in Central Texas. Usually considered a nice state to live due to the taxes. I “own” 1.745 acres with a double wide mobile home on it. Everything is paid off.
My property” was assessed at $14,300 in 2020, in 2021 that assessment went to $26,300, in 2022 assessed value was $53,000. Part of this was my fault for not insuring house and property were one tax bill: the over 65 and homestead had applied only to the home, not the property. Fixed that so it is now just one bill.
But the real question is 83% increase in assessed value in one year and then just over 100% increase in assessed value in the next year. All the tax assessor will say is small lots have been very popular in this area the last few years and inflation hits assessed values too.
Only the “STATE” owns anything it would seem


64 posted on 11/20/2022 8:58:36 AM PST by rustyboots
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To: ExGeeEye

So, not only can you not tell what day it is, posting a Saturday Rant on a Sunday, but you’re ignorant to conversational English as well.


65 posted on 11/20/2022 9:02:48 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: gloryblaze

My sister tells me the person who bought it did a renovation on it.

Renovation had been an ongoing project between 1979 and the last couple licks my Mom did to it in 2010. There were still a couple of rooms that had been untouched (aside from cleaning and the whole-house rewiring Dad and I did) and a couple more that had merely been repainted, and a younger person dedicated to the task probably got them. I can only imagine, however, someone looking at some parts of it that I liked and saying “tsk...that’s gotta go”.


66 posted on 11/20/2022 9:48:28 AM PST by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

Did the vote ever include the option to abolish the tax?


67 posted on 11/20/2022 9:49:20 AM PST by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: ExGeeEye

“Did the vote ever include the option to abolish the tax?”

Most if not all of the tax proposals are for new taxes, increased taxes, or renewals of old taxes.

If people would vote “no” on the renewal of an old tax it would effectively abolish the tax. I don’t recall if that has happened or not, but people had the opportunity.

I don’t know if there were ever any permanent taxes put to the vote, but if so they could be put on the ballot to be abolished.

And we have had proposed new taxes voted down. Most of the renewals seem to be for fire departments, law enforcement, road work, and schools. School tax levies get voted down sometimes, which irritates a certain segment of the population. Fire department, law enforcement, and road work tax levies don’t get voted down so much but it depends on what the purpose is.

Personally, I have voted for some tax levies and against some. Sometimes I’m on the winning side and sometimes not.


68 posted on 11/20/2022 10:12:21 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (c)
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To: KrisKrinkle

My wife and I always vote “no” on adding to taxes, even when (it happens!) we like the thing the revenue is supposed to fund. It’s a default setting.


69 posted on 11/20/2022 10:17:30 AM PST by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: ExGeeEye

The state owns the trees on “your” property and requires that any construction you do must be inspected and very large amounts of money go to the State for the permissions and inspections.


70 posted on 11/20/2022 10:33:42 AM PST by arthurus (covfefe |c|)
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To: gloryblaze

No, they were planning to keep it until they found out about the taxes. Now they are weighing different aspects to see if it is worth it to pay the very high property tax.


71 posted on 11/20/2022 6:02:53 PM PST by Chicory
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To: ExGeeEye
"...it is perpetuated only by the collective acquiescence of a comfortable citizenry [including you]."

My property taxes aren't really that high compared to most people I know, so that probably colors my perception. For what I pay I look around and feel like I'm getting my money's worth.

72 posted on 11/20/2022 6:07:20 PM PST by The Duke (Never Retreat, Never Surrender!)
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To: ExGeeEye

Look at it all. There was a time one man worked five days a week, and his effort was enough value to afford a house, support a family, set aside an inheritance for his children, and afford extravagances like a family vacation across the country, while his wife stayed home and took care of the kids and the house.

Then they got the wives working too, and suddenly if you both didn’t work, you couldn’t afford the house or kids. Then they got college for everyone, and you needed $100K debt before you could start work. Then health insurance started costing so much you needed a third job in the household just to pay for it. Cars became leased/rented for a payment. everything moved toward being a monthly payment.

Now kids can marry, both work, and still have $200K debt they will never be rid of, let alone be able to afford a house or a car, or a vacation, let alone children.

All that value for their work is going somewhere. Somebody is bleeding it off. And they have been incrementally bleeding off more and more, and like the frog in the slowly heating pot of water, we are coming up on a boil.


73 posted on 11/20/2022 6:48:47 PM PST by AnonymousConservative (DO NOT send me sensitive information - http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/surveillance)
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To: SamAdams76

These are great ideas that could greatly reduce costs and improve quality of education. I don’t think the commies would ever go for this, but it would work.


74 posted on 11/21/2022 1:29:17 PM PST by LambSlave
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