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Declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to Soviet leaders from Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner
National Security Archive ^ | 12/12/17 | Svetlana Savranskaya and Tom Blanton

Posted on 11/07/2022 2:53:38 PM PST by hardspunned

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To: ifinnegan

How was the slop? Pick up that laughable take from one of your media masters while rooting around in the NYTs scraps in the trough?


41 posted on 11/07/2022 4:25:10 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: ifinnegan

Oh yeah, ever heard of a dictionary? Look up the word “period”. Which media boob told you Reagan retired and Bush destroyed the Warsaw Pact? Keep struttin’ it, baby.


42 posted on 11/07/2022 4:29:07 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: ought-six

Continue to Pound Sand.


43 posted on 11/07/2022 4:29:18 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: hardspunned

Stop with the hyperventilating about “...the threat of imminent nuclear war.” No one is going to launch nukes over Ukraine. It’s called MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction) for a reason: Only a madman would ever consider starting a nuclear war against another nuclear power. If Putin ordered such a strike, he’d be ignored and removed; ditto with Biden.


44 posted on 11/07/2022 4:30:55 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Navy Patriot

Hush, little one.


45 posted on 11/07/2022 4:32:13 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: hardspunned

Proof we have had bad leadership from way back. The western leaders for the last 40 years have consistently lied to the Russians and acted in bad faith.

If we had a government not in the pocket of the Deep State and the Military Industrial Complex we could have had the Russians as allies and friends.


46 posted on 11/07/2022 4:34:55 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: ifinnegan

If you bothered to read history you would know


47 posted on 11/07/2022 4:36:44 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: ought-six

Continue to Pound Sand.


48 posted on 11/07/2022 4:39:48 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: hardspunned

A man is only as good as his word.


49 posted on 11/07/2022 4:45:32 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

“Proof we have had bad leadership from way back. The western leaders for the last 40 years have consistently lied to the Russians and acted in bad faith.”

Oh, and the Russians have been honorable and trustworthy?

Do you know what Otto von Bismarck said about the Russians? He said, “I don’t trust the Russians because the Russians don’t trust themselves.”


50 posted on 11/07/2022 4:46:40 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: hardspunned

Your link is to Bush administration activities.


51 posted on 11/07/2022 4:55:29 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Heck, I would have told them anything to rid world of the Soviet threat. The Soviets would have never gone quietly onto the ash heap of history if they had any inkling that the US would completely destroy the balance power though. The Russians lived peacefully in the period when non aligned neutral states formed a buffer and maintained somewhat of the old balance of power. The position they have been put in now is untenable to them, right or wrong. They will fight WWIII before allowing one more inch eastward. The terrifying thing is the idiots in DC and many FReepers refuse to look at this from the Russian perspective. If you read the Russian press this situation has been presented their people as a much more dangerous Cuban Missile Crisis that could very well go nuclear. Our “leaders” in government and all powerful media casually talk about fighting and winning WWIII. 40/60 we survive the situation.


52 posted on 11/07/2022 4:57:08 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned; C210N

From Hillsdale’s Imprimis, September 2022, an article by Christopher Caldwell:

Complications of the Ukraine War

EXCERPT:

George Kennan, who was one of the architects of the NATO alliance when the Cold War began in the late 1940s. Kennan was still alert and active, at about 90 years of age, when NATO won the Cold War at the turn of the 1990s. And in 1997, during the Clinton administration, he warned that American plans to push NATO borders “smack up to those of Russia” was the “greatest mistake of the entire post–Cold War era.”

(Thank you, C210N, for the link.)


53 posted on 11/07/2022 5:00:20 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: ifinnegan

Once again, Look up the word “period”. Which media boob told you Reagan retired and Bush destroyed the Warsaw Pact? By strutting it, I did not mean say the same stupid thing over and over. Think up some other stupid thing to say.


54 posted on 11/07/2022 5:03:49 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: linMcHlp

I saw that. Kennan has been one of my heroes since 1970. I remember following his take on that period as it unfolded in real time.


55 posted on 11/07/2022 5:06:34 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: dfwgator

“Are we the baddies?”

Evidently.


56 posted on 11/07/2022 6:16:42 PM PST by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Latvia: 37 degrees)
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To: ifinnegan
You do realize that Russia is not a communist nation today, don't you?

Wake up, Rip Van Winkle, the USSR expired 30 years ago.

57 posted on 11/08/2022 2:59:21 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

What are the names of the breakaway republics at issue in this.


58 posted on 11/08/2022 3:06:34 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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