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Ukraine's Offensives: Tactical Victories Can Contribute to Strategic Defeat
The New Atlas ^ | September 12, 2022 | Brian Berletic

Posted on 09/12/2022 8:46:31 AM PDT by Cathi

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To: Pikachu_Dad

Huge reinforcements of O group to Izyum.

“Huge columns of “🅾️” arrive in a continuous stream to the Izyum Front”


81 posted on 09/12/2022 10:44:48 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Artillery brought in. “S-300s moving in Kupyansk and Izyum directions”


82 posted on 09/12/2022 10:46:07 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Cathi

this is one of the best russkie troll propaganda posts yet: “winning is actually losing”!


83 posted on 09/12/2022 10:46:18 AM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

A claim “Judging by the incoming reports, the RF Armed Forces managed to transfer reinforcements to the Kharkov Front, including cannon and rocket artillery, with maximum speed. Taking into account the incessant attacks of our aircraft on the enemy, it will now be easier to contain the offensive impulse of crests. And in general, it seems that some confusion at the beginning of the defensive phase of the Kharkov battle has passed.

It will be possible to evaluate the preliminary results of the defensive phase in a couple of days after the crests introduce the main part of the reserves into it, and our aviators and missilemen work to the maximum on marching columns and enemy deployment sites. I think now in Chuguev or Kharkov there is not the most rosy atmosphere, given the number of strikes on these operational bases of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.”


84 posted on 09/12/2022 10:46:46 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Do you actually believe this?


85 posted on 09/12/2022 10:47:17 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: Pikachu_Dad

“We do not agree that the decisive battle of this war is now taking place.

the decisive battle will begin when and where Ukraine throws its main reserve into battle - those 10,000 people who complete their studies in the UK.”


86 posted on 09/12/2022 10:47:19 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Interesting report. “The Samara SOBR “Omega”, which came out of the encirclement of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Balakliya, says hello to the Khokhols

There are no casualties among the personnel, there is only a desire to return as soon as possible and give the Nazis what they deserve.”


87 posted on 09/12/2022 10:47:50 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

1:56 am. Admission of defeat. Retreat across the Oskol.

“Kupyansk is partially abandoned, the right bank under the Nazis. Our army goes beyond the Oskol River to take up defense there. I support this decision.

Yesterday Vladlen Tatarsky said in his evening edition that this decision would be the most correct from the point of view of military art. To maintain a foothold on the right bank, in the face of overwhelming numerical superiority of the enemy at any cost, introducing reserves in a dosed way, I consider it pointless. We do not have as many lives of soldiers, unlike the Nazis. It’s a tough decision, but overall I think it’s the right one. Now the task is to competently withdraw the troops across the river, gain a foothold and prevent the Izyum group from being surrounded. Once again, take off your rose-colored glasses. Not only Nazi Ukraine is fighting against us. We are again at war with the collective West - the NATO military and a large number of foreign mercenaries are participating in the offensive on the Kharkov front.”


88 posted on 09/12/2022 10:48:44 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Summary update: Front not yet stabilized. Withdrew across the Oskol in Kupyansk. From 10K from Izyum.

“1. At night, the RF Armed Forces withdrew behind Oskol in Kupyansk (yesterday the bridge across the river was badly damaged) and the enemy began to occupy the western part of Kupyansk in the morning. The RF Armed Forces were in the eastern part of the city in the morning.

2. The enemy continued to attack in the Izyum direction, trying to go directly to Izyum. As of yesterday evening, the front was 5-10 km from the city. The enemy DRG moving along Oskol sought to reach Gorokhovatka and further to Oskol.

3. Krasny Liman began to be subjected to artillery strikes in the morning, and in the morning an attack began on the positions of the RF Armed Forces in the area of ​​Krasny Liman from the area of ​​the Old Caravan. The goal of the enemy is to capture the Krasny Liman and further attack on Oskol, in order to cut off the Izyum grouping. In the event of the loss of Krasny Liman, the question of the need to withdraw the entire Izyum group may rise to its full height. However, the issue of the withdrawal of troops is already on the agenda, since there is not an illusory threat of encirclement near Izyum.

4. Regarding Balakleya, the enemy posted confirming photographs of control from the northern part of the warehouses. The capture of Balakleya has not yet been announced.

In general, the operational crisis after the enemy breakthrough near Balakleya continues to develop. The command has not yet succeeded in stabilizing the front.”


89 posted on 09/12/2022 10:49:51 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Difficulty in war with a strong enemy !

“Today and the next few days we will not receive the most joyful news, and crests will dump gigabytes of photos and videos from the settlements we left behind. Kupyansk has been abandoned and, in fact, we cannot hold out on the right bank of the Oskol River now. I will say this, the decision to withdraw our troops is a military necessity that has prevailed over political expediency, and we must pay tribute to the fact that he who gave the order to withdraw showed courage.

The overslept counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Balakley-Izyum sector, the state of the troops in this area, the lies in the reports to the top, let those who are supposed to deal with all this. I repeat, in the current conditions, an organized withdrawal is the only right decision. And thank God that despite serious territorial losses, our losses in personnel are very small, especially considering the scope of the operation.

In our history, there were the most difficult defeats, after some we became stronger and repaid the enemy a hundredfold, after others, the country itself slipped into disaster. The main thing now is to understand that the Izyum-Balakley battle is Narva, and not Tsushima or Mukden. No need to sprinkle ashes on your head, look for traitors and build conspiracy theories. Such searches lead to a false path, which not only does not correct mistakes, but also aggravates them. We must calmly analyze what happened and realize that there is a difficult war with a strong enemy.”


90 posted on 09/12/2022 10:50:19 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Admission of defeat ! Love it.

“We are leaving most of the Kharkiv region. This is a military disaster. We are severely underpowered. The only thing that will improve the situation is the declaration of WAR to Ukraine, the introduction of martial law and mobilization. In the near future, and better - TOMORROW.

Nothing else will help, it’s already obvious. I have no other words for you.”

“he encirclement of the Russian group in Izyum would be a disaster. The decision to withdraw from a military point of view is absolutely correct in the current shitty circumstances. Let me remind you that this is an episode, tragic and bitter, but an episode of global confrontation. So everyone needs to get together, and not just those who are now working in the NWO zone. Everyone has to do their own thing.”

“Russian Armed Forces left Liman”

“In these minutes, heavy battles are going on for Liman.

Reports about Russian Forces leaving Liman turned out to be wrong.”

“According to comrades from the field, in general, the situation in the Kharkov direction has stabilized.

Although heavy street fighting is going on in a number of settlements.”

“I received confirmation that the settlement of Yampol is still ours. Yampol is controlled by our fighters. Artillery continues to help the infantry.”

“Encouraged by the news from the Kharkov front, the Ukrainian swine community tried to rock the boat in other areas and raked almost simultaneously near Kherson, Avdiivka and Pesky”

“The commander of the ground forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine announced the capture of Balakleya and half of Kupyansk, as well as the upcoming battles for Izyum”

“...Preliminary estimates of enemy losses during the counteroffensive in the Kharkov region are from 2,500 to 5,000 people. Hospitals in Kharkov and Kiev are overcrowded. The Kiev regime’s success comes at a high price.

🇷🇺🇺🇦 Liman is stil ours!”

“The enemy to the northwest of Kupyansk continues to develop an offensive against Veliky”


91 posted on 09/12/2022 10:53:01 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

LOL. More retreats.

“...The need to “relocate” large contingents of troops by curtailing entire axes again raises the question of the insufficient size of the grouping in the entire theater of operations as a whole. From February to September, they tried to solve this issue by strengthening recruitment for contract service, mobilization in the DPR and LPR, recruitment into PMCs, the formation of BARS, the 3rd Corps, etc. However, six months later, the problem still exists and has the most serious impact on the course of operations.

🇷🇺🇺🇦 Ukrainian sources also confirm the failure of the night and morning attacks on Krasny Liman. The defenders of the city were able to fight back, so the enemy is now trying to throw additional forces through the Seversky Donets to resume attacks on Krasny Liman and Yampol.”

“🇷🇺⚡Ramzan Kadyrov addressed and criticized the situation in the Kharkiv direction of the special military operation in Ukraine:

- I, Ramzan Kadyrov, officially declare to you that all these cities will be returned back. Our guys are already there. Another 10,000 fighters are ready to leave;

- In the near future we will reach Odessa, you will see concrete results;

- I’m not a strategist, as in the Ministry of Defense. But mistakes were made. I think they will draw conclusions. When you tell the truth to your face, you may not like it. But I love to tell the truth. We talked with the commanders at the fronts;

It’s a shame that nothing was said for several days. It is clear that people were not prepared for this. We always talk about our work;

- If today or tomorrow changes are not made to the conduct of a special military operation, I will be forced to contact the country’s leadership in order to explain to them the situation on earth. She is very interesting, “awesome” I would say;

- The fact that several villages and cities were given to them, there are several pluses in this. We did not advertise, but we have a special task. Our guys stood up and started their work;

- In the near future we will meet with the military commanders, we will explain to them what patriotism is. Patriots should not be offended if someone did something wrong. We must unite people around ourselves;

- I know one thing. Russia will win. NATO weapons will be suppressed by the spirit of our fighters. Our hands and feet are already trembling.

🇷🇺🇺🇦 Explosions in Dnepropetrovsk and Nikopol, ...”

🇷🇺🇺🇦 Kharkiv direction - situation at 10:00 11 09.22

So, hopefully, the hardest day of this war is behind us. Yes, we surrendered a lot of very important and very necessary cities, villages, directions, but there’s nothing to be done, we have to go through it and move on. Because the war continues and, judging by the statements of the NATO Secretary General and the head of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, Kyiv plans to fight it to a victorious end, which they see not only in reaching the borders of Ukraine in 2013, but also in the demolition of the current government in Russia.

And this is very good, because even the biggest “peacekeepers” in Moscow are knocked out of the hands of the last trump cards. We are all in the same boat.

But back to the front. What do we have here. The night passed relatively calmly. It is obvious that the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is fizzling out and there are many reasons for this. Firstly, logistics, it stretched for tens of kilometers, and it is not so easy to arrange the supply of troops. Secondly, losses. They are large (although much smaller than near Kherson) and they cannot be ignored either. And thirdly, the Russian command is gradually coming to its senses and new reserves have stabilized the front, albeit in the first approximation.

Attacks on Liman were repulsed yesterday with heavy losses for the enemy, and he is forced to regroup. The same is true in the Seversky direction, where yesterday the enemy tried to immediately break through our defenses in the direction of Lisichansk.

The only dangerous direction for today (but not for tomorrow) is Veliky Burluk, which Kyiv will try to take, today or tomorrow. It is probably here that the dynamics will take place today, as a result of which it will become clear how much one side recovered, and the second finally fizzled out as a result of the battles of September 7-10.

🇷🇺🇺🇦 According to the latest reports, the withdrawal of the group from the area south of Izyum has been successfully completed. The rearguard units that held back the enemy also managed to retreat (moreover, in an organized manner, despite the losses).

...


92 posted on 09/12/2022 10:55:00 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Pikachu_Dad; Cathi

From post 88: “overwhelming numerical superiority of the enemy”

So apparently the Russians had hollowed out their forces in the north. Why do you suppose that is?

My supposition is that they took the bait in the south, and those troops are on the wrong side of a blown out bridge.


93 posted on 09/12/2022 10:55:45 AM PDT by marron
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Where are they now...

“🇷🇺🇺🇦 At the moment, we can say that the front has finally stabilized along the left bank of the Oskol. There are battles for Liman, we continue to hold Studenok. In the Kharkiv direction, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will most likely move from active offensive operations to the development of the occupied territory. They will filter, shoot and imprison those who are suspected of collaborating with Russia.

Now the Khokhols themselves will have to gain a foothold in Izyum and Balakliya, hold a large piece of territory, which means patrolling the roads, preparing RAV and fuel depots, setting up roadblocks, and pulling up equipment. And they will have to work on neutral territory. The section recaptured by Khokhols has not yet become Russian, but has already ceased to be Ukrainian. In fact, we swapped places with them and now DRGs will work on their blocks, fire on nomadic mortars, RAV warehouses will burst, and winter is ahead. The war continues, or rather just begins.”


94 posted on 09/12/2022 10:56:30 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Another summary:

“🇷🇺🇺🇦 Overview of the situation in the north-east of the SMO zone.

For 4 days now, the enemy has been trying to break through the defensive line of the allied forces in the Liman direction. The Kyiv regime threw mechanized units into battle, which operate with the support of tanks. A crossing has been built across the Seversky Donets near Yapol, formations of the Kyiv regime are trying to cross the river, but are under constant artillery fire from the allied forces. Now Yampol and Krasny Lyman are in full control of our troops. The units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are also increasing pressure in the area of ​​Belogorovka not far from Seversk in order to pull part of the forces of the 2nd Corps of the LNR from Soledar, where the allies are operating successfully. The status of Svyatogorsk is not yet clear. But apparently the enemy managed to take control of part of the city. It should be noted here that even before the counteroffensive, Svyatogorsk was difficult to keep, since the enemy controlled the height on the left bank of the river.

The front line has also stabilized in the northeast of the SMO zone. Parts and formations of the Russian army, those that escaped the encirclement in Izyum and the reserves that were transferred by the Russian Ministry of Defense formed a defense line along the right bank of the Oskol River, and along the border with the Belgorod region. Kupyansk is divided into two parts, the western part is controlled by the forces of the Kyiv regime, the eastern part is controlled by the fighters of the Russian Army. Here, for now, the enemy is using rocket and cannon artillery. But it does not attempt to attack.”


95 posted on 09/12/2022 10:57:26 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Cathi

Just soooooo much winning...!


96 posted on 09/12/2022 11:00:20 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Cathi

Don’t know about the New Atlas, but as far as ABCCBSNBCMSNBCPBS, take what they report and flip it 180 degrees and you’ll be closer to the truth.

How’s that Covid19 vaccine working out?


97 posted on 09/12/2022 11:11:06 AM PDT by CodeJockey ("The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” – Edward Abbey)
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To: Reaganez

Ukraine is now shelling Russian border towns where artillery and rocket attacks are originating.


98 posted on 09/12/2022 11:24:56 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: Cathi
Recovering over 3,000 square kilometers, over 50 towns, and driving Russian forces between Kyiv and Kupyansk back to Belarus is not a small tactical set back for Russia.

The Russian army has collapsed. The collapse started four days ago. It is still collapsing. The Collapse has not stopped or slowed.

Commentators like Brian Berletić are why the pro-Russian side has no credibility. Those who insist on believing blatant falsehoods are known by the company they keep.

99 posted on 09/12/2022 11:40:41 AM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: marron

War is done—Zelenskyy won in a few Hours. I can not see Russia coming back from this—wait til Ukraine starts to push into Russia itself! Russian whimps will be begging for Mercy. Putin is Done! He blew what ever he had. NATO Wonder Weapons and Ukraine resolve won the day! It ripped away the mask of Russian Might. It was all a bluff. The West needs to declare war and invade Russia Now, Roll all the way into Moscow. There is no Russian Army—it was all chewed up in Ukraine—every tank, every cannon, every plane. They got nothing left. Pull down Putin in his Bunker and divide Russia up into occupied zones. I’m sure China will help us for 1/2 of Russia. It will be a great day in Kiev this Christmas.


100 posted on 09/12/2022 11:46:53 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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