Posted on 09/12/2022 5:05:35 AM PDT by jacknhoo
"As in any war, the lengthening of the conflict, the losses on each side and the political entrenchment of belligerents’ demands can make it more difficult, or even politically dangerous, for leaders to make concessions."
The only thing to negotiate is Russia’s complete departure from Ukraine.
“The only thing to negotiate is Russia’s complete departure from Ukraine.”
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Hillary Clinton, is that you?
That could change only if Putin takes a dirt nap or his allies in the Politburo abandon him.
Thank you, President Zelenskyy President Putin President Biden Secretary-General Guterres Dr. Kissinger anonymous Freeper posting from your parents' basement!
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Negotiations, finally a call for Peace? Either way, Ukraine will still get carved up. Vlad will never give up the ethnic Russian provinces he has liberated.
Prolonging this conflict insures the Ukies will be carved up like a Christmas turkey…..fighting Vlad down to the last Ukrainian….there will be no one left to administer/ protect a post war Ukraine, they have already lost a decade of young males….Why is the corrupted little beggar Zelensky demilitarizing his own country?
The late Saeb Erekat-remember him? He had a PHD in Peace Studies. Died in a Jewish hospital. A waste of human skin.
George McGovern had a masters in economics.
“Vlad will never give up the ethnic Russian provinces he has liberated.”
Ummmm looks like Vlad has done just that in the Kharkiv oblast....
>The only thing to negotiate is Russia’s complete departure from Ukraine.
The only thing it negotiate is NATO’s return to the Minsk agreement.
Why do people think that if Putin isn’t there a new and friendly guy will appear who allows the west to turn Russia into the Liberal World Order puppet state?
This is obviously what the west wants. I don’t want the LWO here and I imagine people there would not want it either.
I wonder what this is all about...
1 hour ago
Expert: Authorities are preparing to change the status of a special operation in Ukraine
National News Service
The Russian authorities are preparing to change the status of the
special military operation in Ukraine. This was announced by the
political strategist Marat Bashirov. Kadyrov announced the return of
elite fighters to the Donbass “A change in the status of the NMD is
being prepared,” the expert wrote in his Telegram channel. At the
same time, Bashirov did not specify what he had in mind,
Radiotochka NSN reports. “Let the official authorities announce it,”
the political strategist said. Earlier, the State Duma proposed to give
the special operation in Ukraine the status of counter-terrorism. In
particular, such an initiative was made by the leader of the Just
Russia - For Truth party, Sergei Mironov., reminds RIA FAN. The
politician suggested that the operation to protect Donbass could
turn into a “counter-terrorist operation with all the ensuing
consequences.”
Peace can be achieve when and only when Russia’s invading force goes home.
I do hope the recent Ukrainian victories will lead to peace. Ukraine could gain a complete victory, but how many more years of fighting and destruction to take Crimea?
Better to sign a deal that gives up Crimea in exchange for Russian retreat from the rest of the country, and Ukraine’s ability to join the EU and unofficially NATO.
A thousand+ Russian tanks depleted. There is something to be said for allowing it to get this far. Far enough? Throughout history a negotiated settlement usually ends up in a truce until the next skirmish. It didn’t happen with Japan where unconditional surrender was the demand. Russia made it’s own bed. Europe is strong enough to handle them on their own. Russia is late to the party and should pay the price until they learn that honey is better than vinegar.
LOL, it means the Ruskies are getting their hiney's kicked.
And thank you, President Zelenskyy President Putin President Biden Secretary-General Guterres Dr. Kissinger anonymous Freeper #2 posting from unknown location #2!
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When confronted with a military superpower like Ukraine, a corruption laden and militarily incompetent minor regional player like Russia cannot truly resist, and continued fighting only needlessly prolongs the suffering.
I’m not on any side, but I am on the side of peace - and if the cause of peace requires Russia to make some minor territorial concessions like giving Ukraine a landbridge to Georgia and Kazakhstan, then they should resist their North Korean masters and do it.
Warmongers are always loudest, and will no doubt shout me down as an appeaser for being willing to consider making Ukrainian the official language of Russia. So be it. I will sleep soundly tonight, knowing I did not push Russia to keep fighting a hopeless war over symbolism!
I have naught but contempt for those who sit comfortable on their indoor toilets while demanding Russia keep fighting even as inflation and sanctions ravage the Iranian and North Korean taxpayers bankrolling its quixotic last stand against the unstoppable Ukrainian juggernaut.
I will leave you all with this: peace is priceless, a flag is just a cloth, and a single life is an entire world. Who are you to ask Russia to sacrifice worlds when raising a simple cloth over St. Petersburg, a city you likely never heard of before this war, could mean peace?
I'm tryin' real hard to see a down side to that!
Regards,
Tass:
12 SEP, 04:03
No negotiating prospects with Ukraine at this time seen by Kremlin
Speaking of demand for Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s proposal to organize talks between the Russian and Ukrainian presidents, Peskov stressed that “currently there are no conditions for this”
MOSCOW, September 12. /TASS/. There are no prospects for talks with Ukraine at this time, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters at a briefing on Monday.
“Currently, we do not see any negotiating prospects and we continue stating the absence of any conditions for such talks,” the Kremlin official said replying to a question on the matter.
Speaking of demand for Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s proposal to organize talks between the Russian and Ukrainian presidents, Peskov stressed that “currently there are no conditions for this.”
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