Did anyone here watch True The Vote's "The Pit" today?

[kabar]

D’Souza Is not/not TTV. He is far from being an expert on geotracking. Nor is Bump. TTV admits nothing. Here are the views of TTV.

https://uncoverdc.com/2022/05/09/2000-mules-and-true-the-vote-debunk-ap-hit-piece/

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

If you had watched a second of today's presentation, you'd know that Stacey Abrams and Marc Elias have spun up the national Democrat Lawfare Machine against True The Vote.

The law suits initiated by Abrams and Elias have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with True the Vote releasing the data behind '2000 mules'.

[kiryandil]

The law suits initiated by Abrams and Elias have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with True the Vote releasing the data behind '2000 mules'.

A view from behind the Vote Fraud Denier filter.

[kiryandil]

You have no idea and are afraid to speculate because it will reveal your ignorance.

It's always interesting watching you work like a wrestler to get a hold or move that will work against your opponent's argument.

But the bottom line is that you're a Vote Fraud Denier, and your "arguments" always start by denying the open and notorious 2020 vote fraud.

You're a troll that did a bulk mailing one time, and used a Visa or MasterCard one time.

Bully for you.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

They have it. All of the detractors in the media don’t want to see it.

What part about them not releasing the data do you not understand.

If you are the expert you assert you are, go to TTV and examine it. The data supporting the graph certainly exists.

Greg Phillips is quoted as saying "the movie graphics are not literal interpretations of our data." when confronted that the Atlanta ballot boxes don't match the movie. In other words the screen shot I posted was actually drawn by hand, not by any software. An expert is going to wonder why that is when we know software is widely available to anyone to draw accurately geo-locations and routes on maps. Of course if you don't really have the data, perhaps you fake it (like Dennis Montgomery did with Mike Lindell).

The software used to analyze and aggregate the data can be examined by you. Exactly what are your qualifications? What specifically do you want to see?

Again. Greg Phillips will not release the data. Period. I wish to see some geo-location data. Others do to. That's why any skeptic won't take '2000 mules' seriously. True the Vote won't give anyone a chance because they won't back up their claims with evidence. A slickly produce movie is no substitute for evidence.

Do you know what Greg Phillips qualifications are? Has anyone even asked? :-)

Here's another screen shot from the movie purported showing cell phone data clustered around a ballot box.

Atlanta does not have a rover winding through downtown. The map is apparently a flipped image of downtown Moscow. Why?

[HandyDandy]

Thanks!

[Revel]

As soon as I see that name then I know trouble is abound. Along with a few other names. People who are paid to disrupt forums like this and create chaos and division. There is no point in having long discussions with them.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Here's a January 2017 article concerning Greg Phillips from the Atlantic (yes we know they are far left). He claimed there were 3 million illegal votes cast in 2017, said he would produce the data to back up his claim, and then never did. Sound familiar? Another 2017 article in The Daily Beast lambasting him. (yes we know they are far left) Greg Phillips seems to be an expert in setting up companies, getting government contracts, and failing. Even with the far left bias it raises questions.

[MayflowerMadam]

Was there any part of the event aired after the lunch break? We were watching a re-play on RSBN, but couldn’t find anything after the lunch break.

[kiryandil]

Linking to a Daily Beast With Two Backs article to trash Phillips?

Hmmmmm.....

The law suits initiated by Abrams and Elias have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with True the Vote releasing the data behind '2000 mules'.

1:04:45 - Abrams and Elias sued everyone behind cleaning up the voter rolls in Georgia - i.e., data relating to names. Since the data behind 2000 Mules that the vote-fraud-denying agitators like you are imperiously demanding IS more names, it's the same concern.

More lawfare and more lawsuits from scum like Abrams & Elias.

[kabar]

Stop the troll. TTV has the goods. Deal with it. The 2020 election was stolen and your boy Joe Biden didn’t receive 81 million votes. He is illegitimate.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

1:04:45 - Abrams and Elias sued everyone behind cleaning up the voter rolls in Georgia - i.e., data relating to names. Since the data behind 2000 Mules that the vote-fraud-denying agitators like you are imperiously demanding IS more names, it's the same concern.

My God you are so ignorant. The geo-location data that would be evidence behind the '2000 mules' movie contains NO names and has no connection to voter rolls. It's not even private as they bought it from google and other companies. You keep forgetting that I'm the expert and you're a tool. Go donate to True the Grift fool.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Stop the troll. TTV has the goods. Deal with it. The 2020 election was stolen and your boy Joe Biden didn’t receive 81 million votes. He is illegitimate.

Facts don't care about your feelings.

[kiryandil]

My God you are so ignorant. The geo-location data that would be evidence behind the '2000 mules' movie contains NO names and has no connection to voter rolls. It's not even private as they bought it from google and other companies. You keep forgetting that I'm the expert and you're a tool. Go donate to True the Grift fool.

The vote-fraud-denying clown, Rightwing Conspiratr1, attacks his FR betters.

[kabar]

Denial just ain’t a river in Egypt. Biden stole the election. Agree?

[kiryandil]

Rightwing DenierTroll has been spazzing out since the 2020 "election".

He's always got a new Denier angle.

[sport]

I agree.

[TChad]

A slickly produce movie is no substitute for evidence.

Absolutely. Thanks for your posts. It's good to see a little skepticism around all these 2000 Mules true believers.

[kiryandil]

to paraphrase - "Those who deny vote fraud are condemned to wonder why their side lost the election AGAIN..."

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

[TChad]

you CLEARLY did not watch the movie

I watched it three times. The important stuff in 2000 Mules is not what it contains, but what it leaves out. Finding what was left out took three viewings.

This thread has died, but I wrote the little piece below, so I might as well post it:

Here's my fantasy of a Dinesh D'Souza speech after he ingested a healthy slug of truth serum just before the release of 2000 Mules.

"Before you pay to see my film, I'd like to clear up just what you will and will not be seeing.

"My friends and I have pretended that 2000 Mules will show Democrat operatives putting multiple illegal ballots in multiple ballot dropboxes. You are probably paying to see that, but the film never shows it. Not once. The videos do show some people putting multiple ballots into the boxes, and dropping a few on the ground, but it is legal in some states to mail other people's ballots. Whether or not it is legal, people do it as a favor for friends and family. The videos obviously do not prove the grand conspiracy we are trying to sell, but we pretend that they do, and say 'Trust us!'"

"We call the ballot-inserting voters in the videos 'mules.' We contend that the mules were tracked on their cell phones, driving between multiple dropboxes and nonprofit organizations. In the film we offer no proof of that. Mules are defined by their movement via cell phone tracking. TTV has geospatial tracking data and it has dropbox video, but the two do not overlap. The "mules" exist only in the tracking data. We provide no proof that ANY voters in the videos were the same people who were tracked. We bet very few people will notice."

"We tracked the motions of cell phones that came within 100 feet of particular ballot dropboxes. In the film we pretended that for a mule visit to a dropbox to count, the phone had to come within a foot or two of the dropboxes. Unfortunately, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation caught that lie and forced us to admit that our data showed that a mule only had to come within 100 feet of a dropbox for a visit to count. Obviously, we could not mention that number in the film. Our mule hypothesis would go down the drain along with our profits, so we do not mention it. Also, we could not mention that the GBI had rejected our geospatial data as being merely "curious" and unworthy of pursuit. So we deliberately kept the GBI out of the film, thereby lying by omission to our viewers. Also, we did not give our raw data to any expert who was qualified to replicate our results. We were afraid of what would happen if we did."

"We emphasized in our publicity that we had a huge amount of video of the dropboxes, and implied that the videos confirmed the crimes of ballot-dropping mules who we had supposedly identified from our geospatial tracking. Nope! Nowhere in the film will you see an identified mule's position on a True the Vote computer screen that corresponds to a single real person shown in the film.

"We pretended to have done a sophisticated analysis of 25 terabytes of geospatial data that allowed us to create mule travel maps, that showed the paths of mules between ballot dropboxes and non-profit organizations. We hope that no one will notice that creating everything we showed onscreen would have required only a simple graphics program and a few hours of work. In the film we introduced no one who was claimed to have the training and experience to have done this analysis of a huge amount of data. We interviewed no independent experts on evaluating geospatial data who might have rated our efforts, and made the film more credible. We could have asked such an expert to try to replicate our results with our data, but we did not. We did not want to know the results. We calculated that we would be able to get away with all this, because our viewers desperately want to believe us."

"After the film's profits start rolling in, I hope that Gregg and Catherine can be reimbursed for the small fortune they spent for all that useless data."

"Please enjoy the film."