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The war on fossil fuels is concluding—and the good guys are losing
American Thinker ^ | 16 Jul, 2022 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 07/16/2022 4:14:29 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

When they do, they will tell us that they meant well.


81 posted on 07/16/2022 9:15:21 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Are vegetarian real vegetarian burgers or just fake meat?)
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To: HYPOCRACY

“….can’t I infer that the author thinks Germany is the good guys?”

Yes, but only to the extent that Germany is part of the Western world, which it is.

Here it is in the author’s own words:

“While the winner among these groups isn’t clear, the loser is coming into focus: Ordinary people across the Western world.“

So, on a global level, there is the West vs the East, and the author is calling the West “the good guys”.

Of course, if you focus only on the West, there are good guys and bad guys too, and it’s fair to say Germany has been one of the bad guys. But to do so is to completely miss the author’s point about global East/West power shifts.


82 posted on 07/17/2022 2:34:03 AM PDT by enumerated ( )
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To: enumerated

I got his point. It was very strained. The West is full of maggots who would like nothing better than a Sino-centric world and most of Asia hates China.

Treating either as monolithic is silly.

Anyway. Nice talking to you.


83 posted on 07/17/2022 2:44:30 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: HYPOCRACY

True, “The West” has certainly fallen short of its ideals. We talk a lot about liberty and self-governance, but it rarely gets put into practice, and doesn’t last long before getting corrupted.

But at least we talk about liberty - maybe that slows down the collapse a bit. I am not under the illusion that the West is necessarily “the good guys”.

But when it comes down to “us vs them”, with “them” being Red China, I’ll throw in with the West any day, even Germany, if they can ever get their shit together.


84 posted on 07/17/2022 3:14:47 AM PDT by enumerated ( )
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To: enumerated

Fair points. Agree.


85 posted on 07/17/2022 3:44:22 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: aquila48

“Just to be argumentative, methane is found in many planets of our solar system. Especially the giant ones - where no biological life has ever existed.”

Being factual is not being argumentative however some folks don’t understand that everything on this planet that we use, make, discover, throw away... everything comes from the planet itself. Including all the space debris that the planet collects... (in case somebody wanted to go there).

It’s all here and it will be here in some way shape or form 450 billion years from now.

But we in this society and this handful of Millennia that have passed with our direct cognizance of is all going to be a thin layer of strata much like something that you would see at the Grand Canyon for example.

That’s our Legacy. Which btw is the legacy of everything on this planet every time it goes through a makeover.

No foolin’ - science fiction... is afterall fiction.

“I fear the day when the technology overlaps with our humanity. The world will only have a generation of idiots.” Albert Einstein


86 posted on 07/17/2022 10:33:28 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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