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Louisiana girl, 4, died 'after granny forced her to drink half a bottle of WHISKEY while mom watched' leaving youngster eight times over adult limit: Both women now charged with first-degree murder
Daily Mail UK ^ | April 23, 2022 | Harriet Alexander

Posted on 04/23/2022 8:35:26 AM PDT by Morgana

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To: OrangeHoof

“First degree murder implies intent to kill.”

Making a 4 year old drink that much alcohol is first degree murder in my book unless one tries to make the argument these people were too ignorant and/or stupid to know that to be the case.

It depends on the jury. If they get enough ignorant people on the jury perhaps they get off on the 1st degree charge. The prosecution has much to consider here.


41 posted on 04/23/2022 9:30:15 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Morgana

Nitpicking: I wish news stories about alcohol did not always compare blood alcohol levels to a legal limit. The legal limit is for driving a vehicle. It only matters when you get pulled over. Any other time it is basically meaningless.

Alcohol is a poison. The amount of alcohol that can be survived depends on how quickly your liver can make enzymes to break alcohol down. It is different for everyone. Children don’t make alcohol enzymes nearly as fast as adults and heavy drinkers make them much faster than average normal people.


42 posted on 04/23/2022 9:44:50 AM PDT by webheart (I thought I was helping by getting vaccinated but they say I didn’t help at all. )
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To: Morgana

That poor child.


43 posted on 04/23/2022 9:49:11 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: OrangeHoof

Headline grandstanding. Should be downgraded b4 the trial.


44 posted on 04/23/2022 9:49:46 AM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: Morgana

Both women now charged with first-degree murder
***Good. God rest that poor child’s soul.


45 posted on 04/23/2022 10:15:38 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Ann Archy
Also NO FATHER in the house.

And yet, surprisingly they have the same last name.

46 posted on 04/23/2022 10:22:43 AM PDT by 03A3 (If we can defund the police, we sure as hell can defund the FBI)
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To: Morgana

just think, some guy actually knocked up China’s mom.


47 posted on 04/23/2022 10:26:14 AM PDT by ronniesgal (if more folks would mind their own business the world would be a better place.)
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To: Morgana

How in the world did they get a 4yo to drink half a bottle of Whiskey? What size bottle was it? Most kids would fight any attempt to drink it. It’s harsh. Burns going down, tastes nasty..how did they get that baby to drink half a bottle of any size???


48 posted on 04/23/2022 10:33:22 AM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: Morgana

Death penalty. Poor, beautiful little girl never stood a chance.


49 posted on 04/23/2022 10:36:15 AM PDT by dragonblustar (2 Peter 2:14,1 Corinthians 6:18-20)
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To: Blurb2350
Perhaps I’ll be in the minority here, but I think this a tragic incident. Those women will likely never forgive themselves.

Oh horse puckey! The type of people who have enough of a conscience to feel such remorse would never have forced that child to drink a half bottle of whiskey. It's long past time that we as a society stop being soft on criminals of every type.

50 posted on 04/23/2022 10:51:39 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. -- P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: Morgana

honestly.. I think they had the right intentions but were too stupid to know that people can die of alcohol poisoning. Many people don’t know you can die of water poisoning also.


51 posted on 04/23/2022 10:55:48 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: PrairieLady2
how did they get that baby to drink half a bottle of any size

They made her kneel down, pushed her head back and basically poured it down her throat. The kneel down part is in the article. The rest is implied.

52 posted on 04/23/2022 10:59:03 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. -- P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I think they had the right intentions

Pouring a half bottle of whiskey down a 4-year-old's throat qualifies as "right intentions" in your world? Wow!

53 posted on 04/23/2022 11:00:53 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. -- P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: Blurb2350

mmmmm . . .

I think you might want to consider what kind of monsters they are before attributing to them the emotions that say a normal person would be expected to have. Its a corollary to the saying that you should not expect rational responses from irrational people.


54 posted on 04/23/2022 11:01:54 AM PDT by anton
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To: Avalon Memories

no, I was thinking more on the lines of what someone earlier in the thread mentioned about being made to smoke the whole cigarette to teach them a lesson.

1st degree murder requires intent, I just don’t see it here, I see a couple of low IQ’s who were trying to teach a lesson the old fashioned way and were too stupid too know what might happen.


55 posted on 04/23/2022 11:02:54 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Michael.SF.; Morgana

We really, really blew it when we didn’t pick our own damn cotton.


56 posted on 04/23/2022 11:06:49 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: VTenigma

That’s an insult to turnips.


57 posted on 04/23/2022 11:08:26 AM PDT by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: Blurb2350

“Those women will likely never forgive themselves.”

If so, then they should concoct a murderer-suicide pact. Now. They’re disgusting pigs.


58 posted on 04/23/2022 11:10:57 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty.)
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To: olivia3boys; FR_addict
I think a lot of people don’t realize how alcohol is poison. (And I drink a half bottle of wine nightly). My dad told me a story of a guy he knew who when younger who sat at a bar and quietly just drank and drank and drank and then. . .simply died. Also the danger of “21 shots on the 21st birthday”—I think that happens.

I've never heard of the "21 shots on the 21st birthday" celebration of introduction to adult alcohol consumption. Families that consume alcohol moderately and responsibly (e.g. wine with dinner) tend to teach the same thing to their kids, so when the kids grow up they don't go wild when they hit their majority.

There are health classes in high schools—the danger of death from drinking should be taught.

Good idea, like driver education. But there are a lot of things they don't teach and should be teaching.

59 posted on 04/23/2022 11:12:16 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: 03A3

The kids and mother have the same last name as the grandmother....right?


60 posted on 04/23/2022 11:15:29 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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