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Ultra-light liquid hydrogen tanks promise to make jet fuel obsolete
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| April 21, 2022
| Loz Blain
Posted on 04/21/2022 2:39:28 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Yo-Yo
It’s combustible, so it’s a fuel itself.
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posted on
04/21/2022 3:03:01 PM PDT
by
jimwatx
To: Yo-Yo
Liquid hydrogen today comes from Natural Gas...and guess what the byproduct of that process is?
Steam-methane reforming reaction
CH4 + H2O (+ heat) → CO + 3H2
Water-gas shift reactionn
CO + H2O → CO2 + H2 (+ small amount of heat)
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posted on
04/21/2022 3:03:14 PM PDT
by
ProtectOurFreedom
(“Liberty is an antecedent of government, not a benefit from government” ~ Clarence Thomas)
To: jimwatx
Electricity is free, right? So no problem... /sarc
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posted on
04/21/2022 3:03:22 PM PDT
by
nascarnation
(Let's Go Brandon!)
To: bigbob
The issue for passenger cars is more complex but truck fleets such as FedEx or WalMart trucks that operate out of a specific hub location would be feasible for on-site hydrogen production. All it takes is natural gas and we have lots of that and it can safely be transported. Or just build a fleet of natural gas vehicles. Much cheaper, easier and safer.
To: Vermont Lt
“Helium would suck as a jet fuel.”
And leave the ground crew with those silly, squeaky high voices.
CC
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posted on
04/21/2022 3:04:30 PM PDT
by
Celtic Conservative
(My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
To: Jonty30
" on today's dirty jet fuel" I thought most fuels included some detergent to keep the engines clean.
To: Vermont Lt
I could never understand why Nat gas never caught on for cars. Among other things, natural gas costs more and has less energy. It also consists of the greenhouse gas methane and a part of that leaks away during the extraction process.
To: who_would_fardels_bear
I noticed that little politicking. Liberals just cannot help themselves.
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posted on
04/21/2022 3:07:42 PM PDT
by
Jonty30
(Ask a liberal if they hav do they just collect them from les they destroy. )
To: jimwatx
So Thermodynamics is not your strong suit?
Got it.
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posted on
04/21/2022 3:08:02 PM PDT
by
FreedomPoster
(Islam delenda est)
To: Vermont Lt
“Helium would suck as a jet fuel”
And make the jet sound funny...
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posted on
04/21/2022 3:08:45 PM PDT
by
Clutch Martin
(The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, bust that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
To: doc11355
The Blimp wasn’t exactly a “tank”. It was a BALLOON.
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posted on
04/21/2022 3:08:47 PM PDT
by
faucetman
(Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
To: jimwatx
just need a method by which such a splitting becomes economically feasible, with more energy produced compared to the energy required to split it Conservation of Energy ... it's not just a good idea, it's the law.
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posted on
04/21/2022 3:10:35 PM PDT
by
Campion
(All we are saying is give peace a chance.)
To: Toddsterpatriot
“How many new nuclear reactors should we build?“
Unless you’re speaking for your team of nuclear engineers none.
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posted on
04/21/2022 3:12:46 PM PDT
by
Born in 1950
(Anti left, nothing else.)
To: nascarnation
Yup that would be the sticking point with electrolysis, unless they could find some sort of cheap catalytic method to produce it requiring much less energy inputted into the separation process. I still say nuclear fusion is the way to go, and think more should be spent investigating that.
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posted on
04/21/2022 3:14:38 PM PDT
by
jimwatx
To: Vermont Lt
I could never understand why Nat gas never caught on for cars. Hard to store, basically. You either have to compress it and store it in a fairly heavy tank, or liquefy it, which means you have a thermos bottle of very cold liquid which can't be stored indefinitely. Nevertheless, there are a number of fleet vehicles that have been converted to NG.
I have a (stationary) NG fueled standby generator. While it's hard to handle, engines love it as a fuel. When I change the oil on the generator, the old oil looks -- after a year -- almost as clean as the new oil.
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posted on
04/21/2022 3:15:15 PM PDT
by
Campion
(All we are saying is give peace a chance.)
To: Born in 1950
Unless you’re speaking for your team of nuclear engineers none. Where are we going to get all this groovy hydrogen?
To: jimwatx
Take it from a (former) chemist: Catalysts can change the kinetics (rate) of a reaction, but they can’t change the thermodynamics. Energy in will (at best!) equal energy out, no matter how you do it.
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posted on
04/21/2022 3:16:57 PM PDT
by
Campion
(All we are saying is give peace a chance.)
To: Jonty30
hydrogen is a much better option than any battery. Check out the so called Diamond battery. It uses expended nuclear fuel and and diamond dust to generate electricity, has to be recharged ever few thousand years so probably not an option.{:~)
Diamond Battery on YouTube
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posted on
04/21/2022 3:21:47 PM PDT
by
itsahoot
(Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
To: Toddsterpatriot
“Where are we going to get all this groovy hydrogen?“
Unless you’re speaking for your team of hydrogen miners you’re not.
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posted on
04/21/2022 3:21:50 PM PDT
by
Born in 1950
(Anti left, nothing else.)
To: Jonty30
The only thing that would have made this story better is if they somehow snuck in “graphine nanotubes.”
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posted on
04/21/2022 3:23:25 PM PDT
by
Organic Panic
(Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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