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The Supreme Court Will Hear Lawsuit Over Whether Warhol Committed Copyright Infringement
ARTnews ^ | March 28, 2022 | Alex Greenberger

Posted on 03/29/2022 3:12:57 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway; DallasBiff

Andy Warhol was Catholic, gay, and attempted to be (with varying reports of his success) celibate. He was incredibly talented, able to free-hand draw a circle with unrivaled perfection. And he was hugely conservative. His obsession with Campbell’s soup was based on the fact that as a child, he was very sickly and his mom was a single, working mom; she could often feed him nothing but soup, but he thought that the fact that there were so many dozens of kinds of Campbell’s soup was a miracle of American industriousness. He tried to praise God in such ordinary miracles; turning common pop culture into religion-inspired icons.

The tension between his deep faith and his sexuality was an artistic focus of his; he struggled with why God had allowed him to be incapable of having a family or joining the priesthood (unlike so many corrupt bishops, he believed his homosexuality rendered him incapable of the priesthood), so he was in turns angry at God and deeply worshipful.


21 posted on 03/29/2022 4:11:52 PM PDT by dangus
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To: nickcarraway

Ruthenian Catholic, which I think is a subset of Eastern Orthodox.


22 posted on 03/29/2022 4:13:14 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: dangus
Andy Warhol was Catholic, gay, and attempted to be (with varying reports of his success) celibate. He was incredibly talented, able to free-hand draw a circle with unrivaled perfection. And he was hugely conservative. His obsession with Campbell’s soup was based on the fact that as a child, he was very sickly and his mom was a single, working mom; she could often feed him nothing but soup, but he thought that the fact that there were so many dozens of kinds of Campbell’s soup was a miracle of American industriousness. He tried to praise God in such ordinary miracles; turning common pop culture into religion-inspired icons.

The tension between his deep faith and his sexuality was an artistic focus of his; he struggled with why God had allowed him to be incapable of having a family or joining the priesthood (unlike so many corrupt bishops, he believed his homosexuality rendered him incapable of the priesthood), so he was in turns angry at God and deeply worshipful

Whoa, that is way deep.

All I was conveying was that my mother grew up in the same neighborhood, as Andy Warhol(Warhola).

23 posted on 03/29/2022 4:23:13 PM PDT by DallasBiff (Lautenberg The Forefather of "The Nanny State!")
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To: jjotto

No, Ruthenian Catholics are Catholics, they just use a different rite than the western Catholics. They were originally part of the Orthodox, but then united with the Catholic Church in the 1600s.


24 posted on 03/29/2022 4:30:21 PM PDT by Chicory
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Thanks.


25 posted on 03/29/2022 4:31:50 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: P-Marlowe
If Goldsmith took the picture while working on assignment for a Newsweek, then the rights to the picture would belong to Newsweek. If Warhol used the photo published by Newsweek, then Newsweek would be the copyright holder and the aggrieved party.

If it was never published then how did Warhol get the picture? Did he buy it? If so Warhol would own the rights.

I don’t see how Goldsmith has standing.

Additionally if he didn’t notice the infringement for 40 years, then there’s insufficient evidence of a copyright infringement. And if he did notice it 40 years ago, then he waived the copyright by waiting too long to complain.

The rights were likely retained by the artist unless specifically signed away to Newsweek. (State laws vary on artist’s rights; the state I live in is artist-friendly on copyright issues)

For Newsweek, they’d rather pay a one-time publish fee (say $5,000) than a buyout fee (say, $15,000) on the use of the image. Newsweek might have had a 3 month window of exclusivity, after which the artist could resell the photo.

Assuming that Prince claimed no ownership (unlikely that he would, unless he had commissioned and paid for the session), the artist would have had full ownership.

As for ‘derivative use’ by Warhol, it seems to me a slippery slope if the Justices can’t clearly define what constitutes a violation. And, as you say, the delay in claiming infringement is troubling for the photographer.

It may be that SCOTUS took the case with the intent of broadening the rights of derivative users (ie. meme creators). I guess we’ll find out.

/my 2c, ymmv

26 posted on 03/29/2022 6:21:33 PM PDT by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz )
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