The PCR Scam: PCR Does Not Detect SARS-CoV-2.

dailyexpose.uk ^ | FEBRUARY 24, 2022 | PATRICIA HARRITY

[ducttape45]

I hate to be the "Debbie Downer" here, but the PCR test is what possibly saved my life. On Jan 31 I submitted to a PCR test because I felt like absolute doggie doo. I came back positive, and three days later I was in the hospital undergoing a 5 day Remdesivir treatment. The rapid test did not detect the Covid infection, but the PCR did.

I know, I've been on the anti-PCR bandwagon for a the longest time, but my doctor said if I didn't have the PCR test, I could on a waiting list for a lung transplant right now.

So before we all go and downplay the effectiveness of the PCR test, let's get some more real world information from folks who've been there, like me.

[Fury]

There is no isolated sample of Covid virus to use as a reference.

FAKE NEWS. Keep posting that, keep getting called on it.

[bagster]

FAKE NEWS. Keep posting that, keep getting called on it.

#WhenRetardsCallYouOnIt

#WelcomeToAbsurdia

[ransomnote]

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled The PCR Scam: PCR Does Not Detect SARS-CoV-2., ducttape45 wrote:

I hate to be the "Debbie Downer" here, but the PCR test is what possibly saved my life. On Jan 31 I submitted to a PCR test because I felt like absolute doggie doo. I came back positive, and three days later I was in the hospital undergoing a 5 day Remdesivir treatment. The rapid test did not detect the Covid infection, but the PCR did.

I know, I've been on the anti-PCR bandwagon for a the longest time, but my doctor said if I didn't have the PCR test, I could on a waiting list for a lung transplant right now.

So before we all go and downplay the effectiveness of the PCR test, let's get some more real world information from folks who've been there, like me.

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The PCR is useless for many reasons. You had a 50/50 chance of testing positive and I'm glad you lucked out.

[ransomnote]

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled The PCR Scam: PCR Does Not Detect SARS-CoV-2., 

dadfly wrote: ok, i guess we disagree to some extent. to inform others on what i believe i know about PCR, i’ll make one more post, hopefully to clarify to others.

ransomnote wrote: I'll respond one more time as well, for balance.

dadfly wrote: it is a screening test, and it works as that. it does eliminate the presence of specific sequences in a sample.

in the context of multiple PCR tests (reflex tests are ordered automatically on positive) or other confirmatory tests, you can be sure what you’re looking for is absent.

ransomnote wrote: We disagree here but I think part of my reasoning surfaces below in related comment. I'll just put some reference links here:

COVID PCR Test Useless Says Report By 22 Highly Qualified Specialists

FDA openly admits that the infamous PCR test for the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) was developed with what appears to be genetic material from a common cold virus.

CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel [inludes my remarks, images from document, and the download link for the document]
fda.gov ^ 

One FAKE PCR ‘Test’ to rule us all. How the CDC/FDA/NIH and World Health Organization made themselves gods.
8/25/2021 | vanity

dadfly wrote: in the context of multiple PCR tests correctly collected, you can and should trust the result for an active infection only.

ransomnote wrote: No, not according to the inventor of the test. Even if the Covid PCR test had actually been given a reference set to specifically detect the Covid virus, and it wasn't, the PCR test would still not be appropriate. At the most basic level, it was not designed to determine live viral load. It can falsely flag material from an infection a month ago, or from an exposure to the virus successfully defeated without ever becoming ill. There are some CDC links which admit it can falsely identify prior illnesses in people who are now healthy.

Even if the reference strand of genetic material in the Covid Test were the correct sequence of nucleotides (and in the Covid PCR, it is not)is not unique to Covid, but is found, or has been tested and found in Paw Paw fruit, Kiwi, 'Spanish Water', Coca Cola and orange juice, among other questionable locations. 

WHO uses a PCR that actually uses a fragment of human genome as a possible match to Covid. These kinds of errors simply cannot be accidental. Creating a fake Covid test gave those waging the Plandemic control over the optics, excuses for lockdowns and demands for vaccination.

dadfly wrote: long term, PCR has no value. the creation of that sample is entirely a different matter. all kinds of things can go wrong at the collection stage.

 we do, i think, agree that alone, it doesn’t “diagnose” anything. that is done in conjunction with further confirmatory tests and finally by the judgement of an MD. when it’s used standalone as it has been by the CDC during this sad episode to infer a diagnosis, it is medical fraud.

ransomnote wrote: Everything about the pandemic is medical fraud and treason. You can't use the PCR to evaluate disease so pairing it in conjunction with further confirmatory tests, even if such tests exist for Covid, and the judgement of the MD excludes the relevence of the PCR. Pfizer falsely obtained 95% efficacy rates by ignoring sick people who received a negative PCR test. 'Science' is not in effect with the Covid plandemic.

dadfly wrote: if you are saying anything else than that. i.e., any blanket statement that PCR can’t be used as a “test” under any circumstances to help diagnose disease or even that it’s not a valid method or some such nonsense. you’re dead wrong and possibly misleading people about PCR, which is why i felt the need to comment.d

ransomnote wrote: The PCR can't be used to diagnose disease according to its inventor, Kary Mullis. It's not a valid method of diagnoses but has its uses in the laboratory. You are certainly misleading people about the PCR and I hope its simply because you are trusting the wrong people - a compromised portion of the medical establishment that censors information and fields propaganda.

dadfly wrote: it’s used everyday at the medical school for research to **test** basic research hypotheses by determining the absence of predicted analytes or genetic material during experimentation, and it’s used everyday in the lab as one of a battery of 100’s of ***tests*** ordered by doctors all over the area not to just investigate the ccp virus, but for many other scientific purposes, among them to diagnose illness.

ransomnote wrote: It's not a valid measure of illness. It's a laboratory tool the compromised portion of the medical establishment is used, and has used in other contexts, to falsely obtain the optics they want.

dadfly wrote: with that have the last word if you want. i’ve made my point and hopefully clarified.

ransomnote wrote: wrote: I appreciated your response, and provide my own here to complete round 2 of debate topics. I don't need the last word. I likely have nothing more to offer on this issue having had the chance to respond twice already. Thank you.

[ducttape45]

I haven't said much about my experience with Covid. I'm still recovering and could be for quite some time.

I was hospitalized 5-11 Feb, as I mentioned in my first post, and trust me, it was not fun. But what makes this episode in my life frustrating is that I have to submit to weekly testing using a test that is supposed to give instant, accurate results.

For over 5 weeks it kept telling me I was negative for Covid, when in reality I was probably positive in, at least, the 2 weeks leading up to my eventual positive result using the PCR test. If I had known earlier, chances are I could have received the help I needed earlier. My doc said I dangerously close to suffering permanent lung damage. If it wasn't for using my CPAP machine along with the meds they gave me, the result could have been far worse.

Now others who work with and around me are starting to pop positive for Covid, using the PCR tests, when they also were testing negative using the rapid test, and many of those have been displaying the same symptoms I had in the weeks leading up my positive test.

That's why I say, let's not totally dismiss the accuracy of the PCR tests. They are saving lives here locally, mine included.

[ransomnote]

I am glad you pulled through. We don’t know if you had covid or something else. If your symptoms were uniquely COvid, then they should have used them to diagnose and treat you because the PCR test has a 95% + false positive rate and an unknown (but signifcant) false negative and whatever it is flagging as ‘Covid’ is some unknown material which can be biologic or chemical (Fruit, COca Cola).
The PCR is not saving lives - it’s hit or miss and so many have been flagged false positive when they aren’t, and many false negative when they aren’t.
The results for PCR have somehow been sent to genetics labs in locations controlled by the CCP.
I’m completely and absolutely serious when I say the PCR is not a valid test, is not useful. You are one of the lucky ones - it happened to test positive,but why didn’t the docs just treat you based on symptoms unique to Covid? Medical control of the Planned-demic.

[dadfly]

hi world. i don’t think if you read through my comments that i disagree at all with you. PCR like any medical, scientific method of measurement is subject to all types of error. and it has been abused to the maximum during the last two years by many bad actors especially at the CDC but all over the world.

my disagreement is with the post which characterizes PCR in general as a “scam.”

that’s utterly false. PCR is real, and has been use for many years in a variety research and medical lab settings, even in medical diagnosis when used as i have said in other comments with ransomnote.

i based this statement on facts alone. this is personal knowledge i have because i have the advantage of being related to a trained reference bench tech who also happens to be a medical informatics it professional for the hospital and medical school one of the best reference labs on the planet.

for example. fact: their home brew PCR test (developed in house because the CDC’s failed their vetting process miserably), with the virus sequenced by scientists at the medical school, was vetted and then used in the hospital in March/April of 2020 and later on the entire staff of the medical school and hospital. it eliminated about 9 out of ten respiratory cases as non-covid. that is a cold hard fact. it called positives in roughly 10 out 5000 front line medical personel when deployed as a screening test for them. again. fact. the practical usefulness of their PCR test proved out in the real world of medicine.

thus, it was very successful as an early stage diagnostic. those are facts, i can personally vouch for. this is for the consumption of interested readers. i don’t think i disagree with you at all about the misuse and overuse of PCR by bad actors in this sorry episode.

anyway. just wanted to respond to you, as a courtesy. think i made these same points already in the thread. as with ransomnote you have the last word if you want. my point is made. PCR is not a “scam.”

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

I do not suggest the PCR test is a scam. Various codings of that which go into it make it behave in certain ways, and the number of cycles of amplification affect all. It is not one test, but many versions, if you will.

My point rests on the January 2020 RT-PCR test coded in Berlin, Germany, by Christian Drosten and supported by the so-called Corman-Drosten research, and created using Chinese data from before that time. That particular test was created a month before the EU adopted it as a standard, and two months before the pandemic was officially declared. Who designs a test for a pandemic before it is declared?

I agree with you that "it has been abused to the maximum during the last two years by many bad actors especially at the CDC but all over the world."

[Jane Long]

Great documentary out...

https://herotozerodoc.com/

A year ago, they were heroes....now, due to absurd mandates, they’re considered zeroes, by their city/other employers.

[ducttape45]

I had Covid. The rapid tests did not detect it. The PCR did. And with many other folks, it's the same story. A gentleman two doors down from me just got diagnosed with Covid via a PCR test, where a rapid test earlier in the week did not detect it.

We've agreed on too many things to let this get between us. I understand your viewpoint, but in these cases that narrative is wrong. The PCR test is detecting Covid and thereby helping to save lives.

[FamiliarFace]

My sister was recently sick with CoVid symptoms. She was very ill but refused to go to a hospital. She had 2 negative at home tests, and never went to get a PCR test. She is still feeling the effects of her illness. It’s hard to say whether or not she contracted a different virus, or CoVid. She says she was so miserable but she has a fear of hospitals after a terrible bout with C. diff about 20 years ago. She still has her cough and little energy. I guess we will never know what she really had.

[ducttape45]

Have her get a test for Covid antigens. If she has that in her blood, then she had Covid.

I too don't like hospitals but I live alone and I knew that if I waited it would get worse. My doctor drove that point home when he said if I had waited and Covid scarred my lungs I might not be here now, or on a waiting list for a lung transplant. Scary times, and this could take months to completely recover from.