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Starship's advanced design is said to have NASA officials "[bleep]ing the bed"
Interesting Engineering ^ | February 16, 2022 | Chris Young

Posted on 02/18/2022 8:45:00 AM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: cgbg

Each of his companies are part of his plan for settling Mars — thee Boring Company isn’t really about moving tourists around Las Vegas, it’s about underground habitat building.

Solar City is really about building an energy infrastructure to support fuel production and eventually habitats on Mars.

Full self driving isn’t really about robotaxis — that and the suposed androids are all about autonomous work forces to excavate, construct, and move tailings, while preparing landing zones, habitats, and food production facilities.


121 posted on 02/19/2022 7:58:51 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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Another round up of this "week's" news (always more than a week because I'm bad at scheduling) - 4 launches - 2 Soyuz, 1 PSLV & 1 Astra.
A whole bunch of cool NASA space science things happened. JWST published calibration images.

And Jared Isaacman is back for more Spaceflight - paying so he can test a SpaceX Space Suit outside the spacecraft while orbiting the Earth.
Space Tourist Pays to Test New Space Suit - Deep Space Updates February 15th | Feb 15, 2022 | Scott Manley
Space Tourist Pays to Test New Space Suit - Deep Space Updates February 15th | Feb 15, 2022 | Scott Manley

122 posted on 02/19/2022 8:01:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: xp38

I’ve always wanted one of those, or even the Captain’s Yacht in ST:TNG, or the Runabout in DS9. ;^)


123 posted on 02/19/2022 9:18:57 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: oldvirginian; PIF

Edison set up the first modern industrial lab and it led to a pile of stuff we take for granted, such as the incandescent bulb. Of course, that product is destroying the Earth and raping transgender endangered species and stuff, so, CANCEL. /s

Work done in his employment was intellectual property of his company. He also put in long hours, and back before audiobooks he hired a series of people who followed him everywhere reading the latest book to pique his interest, so he could absorb the contents while going about other work.

Tesla invented the three kinds of AC motors still in use today, invented radio (he demo’ed radio controlled mini submersibles at the Chicago expo in 1893), invented but never patented fluorescent lighting (which is destroying the Earth and raping transgender endangered species and stuff /s), was one of the prediscovery discoverers of Xrays, but ultimately was a nutjob who couldn’t manage his own affairs. His inventions had a large impact on how factories run, and the existence of small electric motors for home appliances and such.

There were automobiles before Henry Ford, but he figured out how to make them affordable and more reliable. His Model T was a long stroke small bore engine that was flexfuel — he knew gasoline wouldn’t always be available, so it will run on kerosene and water. He not only transformed literally everything about modern surface transportation in over 99 percent of the world’s population, he altered how we live, how we build roads, and how we raise food. He was an foam at the mouth antisemite, but IMHO he’s literally the most significant industrialist in history, and likely the most significant human of the past 200 years, at least.


124 posted on 02/19/2022 9:32:41 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
They must get Depends® delivery by the tractor trailer load, for Lunch Bucket Joe.
125 posted on 02/19/2022 9:41:18 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: carriage_hill

Yeah, and Joe probably drives the 18 wheeler, only stopping to punch Corn Pop in the face.


126 posted on 02/19/2022 10:29:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: hopespringseternal

Ten minutes if SpaceX’s first attempt fails.


At SpaceX, failure is built in - that is the point of Musk’s rapid prototyping - something NASA cannot do.

If Musk had a free hand, without the onerous and restrictive environmental regulations, the Starship - iteration xx- would have launched already, and March would likely have seen several launches or more. Now, even one March launch may be too much to hope for.


127 posted on 02/19/2022 10:55:25 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: cgbg

“I am a bit skeptical about the feasibility of the “divert” part in the near term—but I agree it is worth seeking to develop the technology as best we can.”

Yes. It will take time to develop the tech. But having an economic way to launch into space with enough velocity to go places (not earth orbit and not multiple gravity slingshots), is the key first step.

And we know an asteroid strike is a certainty.


128 posted on 02/19/2022 10:56:33 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: daku

a fully loaded flight full of wealthy space enthusiasts could watch the Artemis landing from the surface of the moon.


Given that Artemis may not actually fly for many years, it would be more like they would be greeted by lunar colonists and hailed by the Chinese colony on the dark side.


129 posted on 02/19/2022 10:57:55 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: markman46

Both the booster and the Starship have been tested separately - this next test is with the booster and the Starship mated.

This is the step that NASA dreads because it heralds the advent of multiple daily Starship launches with 100-200 tons to orbit each launch.


130 posted on 02/19/2022 11:02:19 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

actually the booster 4 has not been test fired yet, mated together only twice, but no test fueling has been done mated together.


131 posted on 02/19/2022 11:05:55 AM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!you)
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To: SunkenCiv

Did “Corn Pop” really exist, or is he another of the many figments of Lunch Bucket Joe’s feeble imagination? Asking for a friend...


132 posted on 02/19/2022 11:44:12 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: carriage_hill

That was kinda my point. :^)


133 posted on 02/19/2022 12:46:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Gotcha there, FRiend.


134 posted on 02/19/2022 1:07:53 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: PIF

“..Barr...”
???


135 posted on 02/19/2022 1:33:55 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

A pressure measurement I believe - in the weeds rocket engine tech.


136 posted on 02/19/2022 1:53:08 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SunkenCiv

The biggest thing, well two things, I have against Edison was he was such a piker. He would offer fantastic bonuses to people to finish projects that he had laying around and when they did it he laughed and never paid them. Exactly the scenario that made Tesla quit and dig ditches for two years. Edison was one cheap bastard.
Another thing is Edison couldn’t stand sharing the headlines with anyone. He would push his friends in the N.Y. press to demonize or bury his competition. He electrocuted an elephant live in NYC so the press would write about how dangerous Tesla’s AC electricity was. He filmed it and had copies distributed nationwide.
His having people following him around reading books to him points to a bit of megalomania in the Great Man.

Tesla’s problem was he was so focused on the future. He even said “let them have today, the future is mine.” He needed a good business manager to manage his financial affairs but the real kick in the teeth was when Westinghouse pulled funding from Tesla’s research because Westinghouse was only interested in radio. Tesla was researching how to transmit energy without power lines.
Tesla had to invent the fluorescent light bulb because Edison refused to let him use Edison bulbs to light the Chicago Expo. Up yours Tommy!
Basically, between AC electricity and the electric motor Nikola Tesla made life as we know it possible.
A bit of a whack job but definitely a genius.

Henry Ford.....
Definitely the most important industrialist in the history of the world. No competition.
And to think he had to fight just to be able to sell his cars.
And he went on to build some great tractors too. The Ford 8N, Jubilee and 800 were great small tractors for the small farmer. Cheaper to produce and repair.


137 posted on 02/19/2022 3:05:23 PM PST by oldvirginian (So if a cow doesn’t produce milk, is it a milk dud or an udder failure?)
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SpaceX Starship delayed on purpose by the US Government? Polaris Program recap. Starlink launches incoming. Finishing with today's Honorable Mention. Ep 299.
SpaceX Starship Orbital Launch Being Deliberately Delayed?
February 18, 2022 | spaceXcentric | Rumble channel
SpaceX Starship Orbital Launch Being Deliberately Delayed? | February 18, 2022 | spaceXcentric

138 posted on 02/20/2022 10:55:40 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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