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Why did scientists suppress the lab-leak theory
Spiked-online ^ | January 12, 2022 | Matt Ridley

Posted on 01/17/2022 11:09:28 AM PST by Grandpa Drudge

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To: momincombatboots

“Obama defunded US hyperviralization. “

He actually didn’t. He went along with the effort to move everything deep into Communist China, the largest mass murder government in human history, so it would be beyond the reach of anyone but them to oversee.

US regulators? Congress? Republican presidents? Investigative reporters, FOIA requests? Flip em the finger because it is in Wuhan. Obama was not protecting us, he was protecting the creeps of the eugenicist Fauci death cult.


21 posted on 01/17/2022 12:46:42 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: alexander_busek

Fauxi, Collins and Daz, among others,also, did not want their role in this to be uncovered.


22 posted on 01/17/2022 12:56:30 PM PST by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: Grandpa Drudge

Because President Trump mentioned that right away. Leftists did and said everything that was opposite of Trump. Politics is why.


23 posted on 01/17/2022 12:58:18 PM PST by madison10
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To: Grimmy; Grandpa Drudge
IMHO the lab leak is small potatoes. And I think it's now being discussed by the drive by media only to distract us from what we've known for 2 years about the delivery of the china virus.

That the Chicoms knew about the virus, even suppressed movement within Wuhan and to and from Wuhan. Yet they suppressed discussion about it among the Chinese, certainly to the outside world, knowing that tons of Chinese living remotely would some come home for their annual celebration of the Chinese new year, get the virus, and take it with them back to their host countries.

This part's been known for two years and yet we let the Dims distract us in arguing over the virus' origins.

24 posted on 01/17/2022 1:26:34 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

Jack Prosibic is reporting China is having HUGE lock downs because of a hemorrrhagic fever break out!! Just in time for our athletes to go over there and bring the damn thing home!! This country NEEDS TO cut all ties to China ASAP!!


25 posted on 01/17/2022 1:30:50 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: DesertRhino

I am with you on this have been from the beginning, THIS WAS DELIBERATE there is not ONE DOUBT in my mind!!


26 posted on 01/17/2022 1:33:20 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Grandpa Drudge

because they are sinful humans like any other group of people.
Being a scientist myself I can testify the group I was around were sinful as any other group of people.


27 posted on 01/17/2022 1:47:20 PM PST by jimfr
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To: Grandpa Drudge
The nature of the suspicious genome insert was recognized early on, first posted 31 January 2020 in a now-withdrawn paper entitled "Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag", Prashant Pradhan, Ashutosh Kumar Pandey, et al from the Indian Institute of Technology and University of Delhi (which actually turned up on FR the other day and I wish I'd saved a link). The speed with which this paper was suppressed and the immediate and erroneous declaration that no technology existed to effect that transfer caused quite a few eyebrows to raise within the field. To clarify, the claim was that no Coronavirus has this sequence except 2019-nCoV and that it does appear in HIV-1, possibly the source. Several hypotheses were advanced as to how it might have gotten there naturally but public discussion went silent nearly as rapidly as the original paper.

Ironically, the epidemiological data pointing to the origin of the breakout being the Wuhan laboratory was Chinese (Chinese National Health Commission and the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission) before their politicians took a hand. Some of this is cited in Early transmissibility assessment of a novel coronavirus in Wuhan, China by Maimuna S. Majumder, PhD, MPH and Kenneth D. Mandl, MD, MPH of Harvard. This was followed by erroneous and passionate denials that the epicenter of the infection was even in Wuhan, curious in the face of the copious Chinese news reports that the place was a disaster zone by then.

Obviously a very large spoon was stirring this pot, but whose? Certainly the U.S. had no stake in the game since no funding was transferred to China...until it appeared that yes, it was. Antony Fauci didn't know about it, though...until it appeared that yes, he did. But we certainly didn't pay for it...until it appeared that not only we had but Fauci's signature was on it. I have no direct evidence of this other than media reporting, so caveat emptor. Given the incredible expenditure in money and lives that ensued one can certainly understand a reluctance to open up, but the scale of the denial was unprecedented.

There is still no hard public evidence that the virus actually was deliberately constructed, which accounts for a certain reluctance on the part of scientists in the field to point fingers in the face of ferocious institutional resistance, a resistance that itself appears telltale at this point. All of the above is my own speculation, and mine the responsibility for error.

28 posted on 01/17/2022 1:49:32 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
The report (Jan. 2020), re HIV and SARS-CoV-2

Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1

ABSTRACT
We are currently witnessing a major epidemic caused by the 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV). The evolution of 2019-nCoV remains elusive. We found 4 insertions in the spike glycoprotein (S) which are unique to the 2019-nCoV and are not present in other coronaviruses. Importantly, amino acid residues in all the 4 inserts have identity or similarity to those in the HIV-1 gp120 or HIV-1 Gag.

Interestingly, despite the inserts being discontinuous on the primary amino acid sequence, 3D-modelling of the 2019-nCoV suggests that they converge to constitute the receptor binding site. The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity /similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature.

This work provides yet unknown insights on 2019-nCoV and sheds light on the evolution and pathogenicity of this virus with important implications for diagnosis of this virus.
The report may be downloaded from:

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full.pdf

There is now a "WITHDRAWN" watermark on the PDF file pages. That is in regard to criticsm - NOT of the HIV revelations in the report, but - of the report not yet being properly peer-reviewed. IMHO, that specific cause for criticsm, was ignored by too many academics and news media who used the gripe to convey instead, that "experts say" "nothing to see here."
29 posted on 01/17/2022 2:11:24 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: alexander_busek

I thought we all had to pretend this was an accident, because the only proportionate response to what really happened requires a nuclear response.


30 posted on 01/17/2022 2:17:54 PM PST by AdSimp
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To: Grandpa Drudge

It’s good to know that even scientists know how to cover their butts.


31 posted on 01/17/2022 4:01:20 PM PST by cradle of freedom ( TRUMP TURNED ON THE LIGHT SWITCH AND THE ROACHES RAN IN ALL DIRECTIONS)
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To: linMcHlp

That’s the one. Many thanks!
:-)


32 posted on 01/17/2022 4:52:35 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: blueunicorn6
...makes the world go around, the world go around...

You are so right.

33 posted on 01/17/2022 4:58:58 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Grandpa Drudge

I posted the whole article, just like you shoulda done. No reason to send freepers to clickbait sites that aren’t on the excerpt list.


34 posted on 01/17/2022 8:11:34 PM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Kevmo; Grandpa Drudge
I posted the whole article, just like you shoulda done. No reason to send freepers to clickbait sites that aren’t on the excerpt list.

Deserves repeating!

Regards,

35 posted on 01/17/2022 10:35:14 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: DesertRhino

It wasn’t leaked, it was released.

I wonder if this is why China feared Trump nuking them?


36 posted on 01/18/2022 5:22:57 AM PST by Paperpusher
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To: Paperpusher

Interesting theory... Like a dude that panics and runs when he sees a cop. Makes you wonder what he thinks maybe got found out, doesn’t it?


37 posted on 01/18/2022 9:41:07 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: Kevmo
Well, I also posted the supporting evidence, using a link within the article (that does not appear in your "copy" of the article).

I have found that links to the original source document (which my thread provides in the heading) are invariably more complete (including references and links) than simple copies of the text of the article (which your post provides).

The purpose of the "excerpt" is to quickly and briefly identify the important point(s) of the article. That is always my intent in any threads that I initiate. Browsers of FR can then more quickly determine and select threads they wish to review and investigate.

38 posted on 01/18/2022 11:49:17 AM PST by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my great grandchildren.)
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To: Grandpa Drudge; humblegunner

I have found that links to the original source document ... are invariably more complete ...than simple copies of the text of the article
***LINKS are more complete than the ACTUAL article? Do you hear yourself? Plus, by sending freepers to other websites you have them risk cookie downloads, viruses, malware, bad information, and ridiculous levels of advertising. Very inconsiderate.

The purpose of the “excerpt” is to quickly and briefly identify the important point(s) of the article.
***Well first of all, the question posed in the title is one of the MOST important points of the article. Secondly, the purpose of excerpting is not that, it is to avoid copyright issues because FR got sued by LA Times.

That is always my intent in any threads that I initiate.
***You should add to your intent the desire not to be so inconsiderate.

Browsers of FR can then more quickly determine and select threads they wish to review and investigate.
***I think you’re just bein’ lazy. Humble Gunner should give you the blogpimp scolding.


39 posted on 01/18/2022 7:34:25 PM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Kevmo
Sorry, Kevmo, but you missed the simplest point. When you follow the link to the article "Read more at spiked-online.com ..." from the heading of the thread, the text presented includes highlighted links (colored font) to supporting or additional information, which are sometimes very important. That is especially true in this case, and your "copying" of the complete text ignores and misses these links. As a result, very important information is missing in your posting of the "complete" article.

The "excerpt" should be just enough to help determine if the reader is even interested in this post or not, in the long run saving everyone precious time.

40 posted on 01/18/2022 11:31:02 PM PST by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my great grandchildren.)
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