Posted on 12/21/2021 1:32:48 PM PST by ransomnote
Q: What is your take on the Shionogi & Co. (top Japanese PHarma) which is on the verge of MHW approval for use of both injectable vaccine and even an oral dose?
| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Leaked Document Reveals ‘Shocking’ Terms of Pfizer’s International Vaccine Agreements, AmericanInTokyo wrote: |
| Seeking common ground here, with the realities at work: You would agree with me, right?, on one thing and that is as of today, and over the past several weeks, the prevailing percentage of patients hospitalized for COVID in the United States in the various states, is unvaccinated vs those who have had some form of vaccination or vaccinations. On that we can agree? I have been reading news source after news source, and seeing hospital report after hospital report in Louisiana, North Carolina, Kentucky, South Dakota, Alabama, etc. and it is all the same. (And upwards of 70%, 80% 90% territory.) |
I can see where we are going to fail to reach common ground. You're still relying on the MSM which told us Biden won the most votes in history, the election was fair, Kamala is smart, Hillary is selfless, etc.
We keep learning about the corruption and lies of Wuhan Fauci, the CDC and NIH but you are still trusting them, while I am not.
Real world data from foreign countries steadily match lab results and anecdotes revealing time and time again that the vaccinated have suppressed immune systems, are spreading and contracting Covid freely, and sadly, some of them are dying.
So no, no common ground between your reliance on sources and mine.
So in reply, I would say, point me now to your specific news sources, including URL links, that show a preponderance or great majority of current hospitalizations in the United States for COVID (both on ventilation, or intubated or otherwise in ICUs etc) is of vaccinated (mRNA vaccines) over patients who were unvaccinated or under-vaccinated (one administration). You can provide the names of hospitals that also relate that, or any state health agency, or any news outlet.
So what news sources do you cite for our work? I would like to know them? Do you just make up stuff and make claims on FR?
Just from reading, there are scores of local US newspapers, local hospital staff interviews, TV news including Fox News outlets locally, state health agencies reports and data. If we accept none of this, what do we do and how do we form your opinion about the real world around one?
It would be simply exhausting to supply them all here. For example here is FOX News 13 in Memphis in the summer with a video report (linked) called: "Hospital workers show frustration with unvaccinated as COVID cases pile up"
Link: https://www.fox13memphis.com/news/local/hospital-workers-show-frustration-with-unvaccinated-covid-cases-pile-up/XNNGDQVNEVEGBFQ6LY3GGS2IIY/
(Interview with Christin Belle, Administrative Nursing Director for Methodist LeBonheur Hospitals)
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The sources we trusted before the plandemic are fully weaponized tools of indoctrination and propaganda now. It's necessary to become your own investigative reporter, to a certain degree. You decide for yourself how much data you need to see in order to be satisfied that you have found the truth. If not satisfied, you keep looking. You can fact check the MSM/Facebook/Twitter fact checkers and discover the sweeping bias the censors are selectively enacting and supporting. Go to the factchecker sites used by the media and look up what they have to say about FR or other conservative individuals or organizations.
There are whistleblowers who have been consistently reporting that, for example, the Delta 'surge' was actually vaccine injured patients, not Covid.
A whistleblower nurse explained that the hospital in which she works does not include the word "Delta" in their professional discussions or patient charts. There is no Delta test. The only time anyone used the word Delta in her hospital was the Hospital Administrator's letter to the nurses, pressuring them to get the 'vaccine'. She and other nurses have said that the hospitals stopped asking patients if they are vaccinated, treat them as if they are not, record them as 'unvaccinated'. (Covid Protocol 'don't ask, don't tell'). That is how they are falsely claiming that the hospitals are being overwhelmed with unvaccinated.
So if you read and watch your traditional sources, you will be told Delta is filling the hospitals. But it is not true.
You can investigate the development of the PCR assay by Kary Mullis, what he said about Fauci, and learn that he said it cannot be used to diagnose any disease because it exaggerates the amount of material present. With a little research, you'll realize the PCR is not a valid test and that they used an invalid test to develop 'vaccines' that don't work. Even the CDC admits it cannot discern Covid from other coronaviruses.
You can review whistleblower testimony and independent journalists and investigators. You can watch funeral home directors talk about deaths/funerals flat through 2020 and then taking off after 'vaccinations' started.
You can read the FOIA's wherein the CDC says it does not have isolated samples of Covid. You can research the creation of the 'vaccines' and recognize the process could not render an accurate genome upon which the vaccines are based, and you can wonder why the world waited for China to release the supposed genome Jan 10, instead of developing it for themselves.
You can read the truly crushing accounts of FReepers sharing their personal losses and concerns following the vax on LilFarmer's thread:
You can hear from patients in the bitchute video "I am Not Misinformation".
https://www.bitchute.com/video/5nUwy8RgB4U4/
You can investigate the patent history of the virus(es) under discussion to discover we've been lied to from the beginning. Dr. David Martin has extensive research demonstrating the sweeping, unprecedented fraud going on.
A Manufactured Illusion: Dr David Martin with Reiner Fuellmich - YouTube
You can watch the video Plandemic:
PLANDEMIC 2 - INDOCTORNATION (full movie) (bitchute.com)
You can read Robert Kennedy Jr's book to see the foundation upon which the plandemic is based, focusing on Anthony Fauci, and how he should be in jail.
You can investigate the changes to the CDC/FDA and NIH all kicking off in 1993, which weaponized them. It's when they stopped serving the public and went into business for themselves, answering only to Gates, Soros and other top dollar funders.
Robert Kennedy Jr: CDC is a privately owned vaccine company – Era of Light
You can investigate Event 201 and Operation Lockstep. Read through international planning commsions, who attended and what they said, detailing how they would control the narrative, lock down the country, and that we the people "Would have nothing, and like it."
I've read the Pfizer and Moderna vaccine trial documents and FDA filings. I've researched the adjuvants on the NIH website, and the issue(s) with ADE. There are doctors who are stepping forward and weathering the blast of abuse dissenters experience. Dr Hoffe simply asked why the 900 patients he vaccinated were experiencing higher levels of adverse events, and more severe levels than encountered in the trials. He has been threatened, issued a gag order, stripped of his hospital privileges (half his income) and his clinic 'burned down'. Look for the trail of doctors presenting research as they are fired, sued, and told they can't practice medicine if they speak against the 'vaccines'.
You can follow Karl Denninger's stories on Market Ticker. He's tracking at least 1 million people 'missing' from the demographics that he has been following for many, many years.
SteveKirsch might be the best primer - he and his team of medical experts brought irrefutable evidence to the FDA Advisory hearing which they couldn't refute.
skirsch.com ^ | August 30, 2021 | Steve Kirsch
100 question slide deck
https://www.skirsch.com/covid/VRBPAC-10-26-21.pdf
There's more. I don't have time to place it all before you but you can skim through my thread posts or watch the forum and start looking at it through your own eyes and not that of the MSM.
Citizen Journalism is rising because the Deep State controls the narrative through traditional means. But they can't stop you from performing the role yourself - finding the information for yourself rather than waiting to receive what the MSM serves.
Thanks for the concise summary.
Citizen journalism my ass.
By the way, Update here: President Trump (Dec. 23) has strongly endorsed taking the vaccines and getting a booster (stated he has done so himself) and also once again heralded that it was HE who found the vaccines and accelerated their delivery to the American people in record time.
So which do you follow now? Trump, or your documentation that would make it appear he is terribly mistaken and now in personal danger because he and his family have the vaccines in their systems now, for a third time?
What would be a nice Freeper challenge would be for you to list 10 random hospitals in the US right now, swamped by COVID patients and full ICU's and we call the press spokesmen for them and ask the ratio of vaccinated versus unvaccinated in those ERs diagnosed with the pandemic? Real-time? No filter? No journalists? No sources. Just direct with the hospital spokespeople or nurses/doctors on duty? No that would be interesting
That would be great.
Only problem is that the hospitals will not release that information. Not ever. And staff who publicly discuss that information get fired immediately if they can be identified. One might suppose that is because such data does not support "The Narrative".
If it looked like it might support "The Narrative", such data collection would be mandatory, and the results reported every week.
President Trump is simply wrong on this point (mRNA treatment), and I do not follow him there.
I do not expect leaders to be infallible saints.
They are releasing it already. It is being reported widely already, even nurses and doctors on camera as they are at the puncture point and extremely distressed people do not have their backs in this trying time.
You reject sources outside the treasonous MSM, even after what they’ve done to Jan 6 protestors, Trump etc. Only corporate controlled media for you.
I choose not to remain captive to whatever the MSM cooks up next.
A small number of hospitals were publicly releasing case counts of COVID patients and outcome counts (recovered, died, days in hospital). Some of these were even published on their websites. Very good.
Most of them have stopped doing that. Very bad.
Nobody has published an official breakdown of "vaccinated" vs "unvaccinated" patients with an analysis of outcomes in the US.
By contrast, the United Kingdom, and Israel have both published official patient counts and analysis of outcomes.
TLDR? Those Government statistics for the last three months do not show significant differences in the percentages of patients who are unvaccinated compared to vaccinated. And they claim much higher rates of vaccinated population (Israel = 90%+) than in the US.
One just might conclude from this data that the mRNA treatment does not really work.
One might also conclude that the claims that 87% of ER patients treated for COVID are "unvaccinated" are simply lies.
Official and systematic data collection would be a cheap and easy way to resolve these arguments. That effort is conspicuously not happening. Why not?
I will take "Lies and Misdirection to support a Narrative" for $1000, Alex.
What would be a nice Freeper challenge would be for you to list 10 random hospitals in the US right now, swamped by COVID patients and full ICU’s and we call the press spokesmen for them and ask the ratio of vaccinated versus unvaccinated in those ERs diagnosed with the pandemic? Real-time? No filter? No journalists? No sources. Just direct with the hospital spokespeople or nurses/doctors on duty? No that would be interesting
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Call the hospitals who have been enriching themselves lying about admissions, billing cancer deaths as “Covid” and isolated patients against their will, killing them with Remdesivir/Midazolam cocktail and ask them for information?
Or have the MSM driving the pandemic with Fake News and covering up the biowarfare attack and ask them to interview the hospitals. I don’t see how that would serve any other purpose than pushing more fake news out there.
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