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How the Shots Destroy Your Immune System in Multiple Ways | Guest: Dr. Dan Stock | 12/9/21
The Conservative Review with Daniel Horowitz ^ | December 9th, 2021 | Daniel Horowitz

Posted on 12/10/2021 6:12:53 AM PST by Qiviut

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To: Triple

Triple wrote: “Ivermectin has been given to humans for decades. It is a very safe molecule. It has also helped clear Uttar Pradesh from Covid.”

the issue for ivermectin isn’t safety, it’s effectiveness.

Those who oppose the vaccines must have fall-back position and that is ivermectin. That ignores several important things.

First, prevention is always superior to treatment.
Second, it’s not clear that ivermectin is the miracle drug that many wish it to be:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/nov/12/facebook-posts/no-scientific-basis-claims-ivermectins-success-utt/

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/no-evidence-suggests-a-causal-link-between-ivermectin-recommendation-and-the-decline-of-covid-19-cases-in-the-indian-state-of-uttar-pradesh/

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermectin-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58170809

https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/why-hcq-ivermectin-dropped-india-covid-treatment-protocol-1857306-2021-09-26

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/hcq-another-drug-dropped-from-covid-treatment-protocol/articleshow/86469107.cms

IOW, ivermectin isn’t the miracle covid cure those opposing vaccination would have you believe.


61 posted on 12/11/2021 6:12:40 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: 9YearLurker

9YearLurker wrote: “That Media Matters blather is itself an embarrassment. What is your problem? Paid or pathetic?”

I could make a similar accusation about all those posting here that oppose vaccinations. Are they being paid by those websites/’doctors’ who are selling expensive over the phone consultations or ‘natural therapeutics’ that don’t work?

BTW, the claim that vaccines ‘destroy your immune system’ aren’t anything new. That canard has been hoisted throughout the history of vaccines. Each time it has been discredited but those opposing vaccines and supporting ‘natural’ remedies keep trotting it out. One would think that it is as false now as it was then.

“CLAIM: A study from the Francis Crick Institute in London found that Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine destroys a type of white blood cell called the T cell and weakens the immune system.”

“AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The vaccine doesn’t destroy T cells or weaken the immune system. On the contrary, it generates a strong T cell response and boosts immunity, according to experts. A researcher at the Francis Crick Institute told The Associated Press the claim distorts his team’s work, which did not examine T cells.”

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-823830789386


62 posted on 12/11/2021 6:21:43 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

have you no shame?


63 posted on 12/11/2021 6:24:30 AM PST by rolling_stone
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To: DugwayDuke

You’re a shill. It is clear.

Back on duty again.


64 posted on 12/11/2021 6:38:16 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

9YearLurker wrote: “You’re a shill. It is clear.”

No, I’m not a shill anymore than those posting anti-vaxxer material are shills for the anti-vaxxer industry. Yes, that exists. Most of the heros of the anti-vaxxer movement are making millions off of click-bait advertising (the more sensational their claims, the more clicks, and the more money). Others are selling expensive over-the-phone consultations and ‘natural’ therapeutics that are known to be ineffective. One could claim you’re a shill too.


65 posted on 12/11/2021 6:56:05 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

“First, prevention is always superior to treatment”.- DD

None of the vaccines claim prevention of any strain anymore.

And - ivermectin prevents Covid

With these points…You look silly…


66 posted on 12/11/2021 5:12:11 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Qiviut

Excellent podcast!

Thank You for posting it.

7


67 posted on 12/11/2021 6:27:48 PM PST by infool7 (Society has now operated for decades under the (false)base premise that the world is overpopulated?)
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To: infool7

👍


68 posted on 12/11/2021 7:32:56 PM PST by Qiviut ("Don't let your children die on the hill you refuse to fight on.")
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To: Triple

Triple wrote: “None of the vaccines claim prevention of any strain anymore. And - ivermectin prevents Covid.”

Define ‘prevention’. Do you mean that a vaccine has to be 100% effective?

And, you can’t provide any credible evidence that ivermectin prevents COVID.


69 posted on 12/12/2021 5:57:26 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Qiviut; Jane Long; ransomnote

Molnupiravir, Bamlanivimab, Remdesivir, and Ivermectin Studies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSgZfMHJUpQ

That is a recent, instructive video by Mobeen Syed, MD. He produces instructive videos for med students (among whom, he is known as “Dr. Been”).

An earlier video by Mobeen Syed, re Ivermectin:

Mechanism of action of Ivermectin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZoBAuR4ajs


70 posted on 12/12/2021 12:32:22 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: Qiviut; Jane Long; ransomnote

Also by Mobeen Syed, MD . . .

Story of Ivermectin Nobel Prize:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9_g4xUNbJU

[SARS-2-CoV / COVID-19] Spike Protein Goes to Nucleus and Impairs DNA Repair (In-Vitro Study - Not Possible In-Vivo):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SYL-iU0E9Q

That last one, is in regard to a study in Sweden. Important to try and follow along with the details (in-vitro vs. in-vivo (not observed in humans, yet)).


71 posted on 12/12/2021 12:41:26 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: linMcHlp; Jane Long; ransomnote

2nd link - video not available.

I haven’t watched the other video, but just off the top of my head:

Molnupiravir ... last I heard, it’s not doing as well as they thought it would in trials. It’s also a ‘mutagenic’ ...... it’s ok if it works on disrupting virus by inserting errors into the virus’s genetic code, but there has to be a discrimination between viral cells & regular cells ... the fear is that this discrimination is not there, thus no ‘off’ switch. The result of no discrimination & errors in normal cell genetic code would likely result in cancer. Once researcher went so far as to say that if you want cancer, take Molnupiravir.


72 posted on 12/12/2021 12:55:23 PM PST by Qiviut ("Don't let your children die on the hill you refuse to fight on.")
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To: Qiviut; Jane Long; ransomnote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SYL-iU0E9Q

Video works. Dr. Been has been producing instruction videos for medical students, for some time. I had a bit of difficulty getting acquainted with his accent (took me a while to understand he was saying “messinger RNA” for mRNA), but eventually I caught on.

His videos require a willingness to study, and focus upon, the mechanisms that he explains. His website:

https://www.drbeen.com/team/

His video library, there:

https://members.drbeen.com/explore

The answers to a lot of questions - specifics - that members of FR have, and have had, are many times revealed in the course of studying Dr. Been’s videos.


73 posted on 12/12/2021 3:14:34 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: Qiviut; Jane Long; ransomnote

I meant to add, that Dr. Been has some other links to his older videos; and there are several of his videos at YouTube.

https://members.drbeen.com/browse

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrtd2wePvAl6RN_D-9jWVQQ


74 posted on 12/12/2021 3:18:37 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: Qiviut

Ping for later


75 posted on 12/13/2021 10:38:45 AM PST by JstABrdPstr
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To: Triple; DugwayDuke

“With these points…You look silly…”

But endorsing the idea that “the Shots Destroy Your Immune System” isn’t. Hilarious. Choice kook material.


76 posted on 12/13/2021 4:19:15 PM PST by Pelham (Q is short for quack )
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To: Pelham

You still buy the load that vaccines (gene therapy) prevent Covid too?

Silliness!


77 posted on 12/13/2021 5:20:09 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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