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Another Case Where Everything You've Read Is Wrong: Ahmaud Arbery
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 24 Nov, 2021 | Francis Menton

Posted on 11/24/2021 3:55:57 AM PST by MtnClimber

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To: GJones2
Yes, it’s sad. They don’t care about justice. Most of them don’t have a clue about what really happened and won’t bother to find out.

Nope. They swallowed the media lies, and then they repeated them in an effort to convince others the media lies were true.

141 posted on 11/24/2021 3:26:16 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Nothing about the fact that they are lawyers and knowledgeable gave you the impression that you might be going the wrong direction?”

You can find 100 lawyers who DISAGREE with them for everyone who agrees. And no, I do not blindly believe ANY lawyer!

Their rationale was bad. I read a decision a few years ago that went at length about what was meant by immediate knowledge. The dudes didn’t have it. And they view the second sentence in the old Georgia law separately from the first while I think it FLOWS from the first. They didn’t have probably cause.

And the jury obviously agreed with my take.

I also object to taking a law from before the Civil War and trying to shoehorn it into giving people the right to grab guns, chase someone they merely SUSPECT and then threaten to kill him! DAMN STUPID, and they will have a lifetime in prison to regret their honest but STUPID, ILLEGAL action.


142 posted on 11/24/2021 3:38:22 PM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Oh, I agree Arbrey was a thug who earned what he got.
Neither side relented. That’s the problem.
The bros brought lethal force in where it didn’t apply, the thug responded as a thug, and the thug escalated it accordingly.


143 posted on 11/24/2021 4:25:34 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Statistics don't matter when they happen to you.)
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To: Mr Rogers
>> ...chase someone they merely SUSPECT and then threaten to kill him! <<

Look at the video -- VIEWER WARNING: Uncut video of confrontation, shooting of Ahmaud Arbery (News4JAX). If they'd wanted to kill him merely because of their knowledge of his trespass -- at night more than once captured on infra-red video -- and mere suspicion of theft, they could have done so well before the moment when the actual shooting took place. No firearm was even shown to Arbery until he was bearing down on Travis, running directly toward him when there was plenty of room on the other side.

Even if these guys had been evil (as evil as those who are now condemning them), they wouldn't have been stupid enough to shoot Arbery when he posed no threat to them. Where they went wrong, though, is in underestimating the stupidity, cowardice, and corruption of the people who would condemn them. They've been condemned as murderers, even though as Arbery ran by the right side of the truck, there was nobody blocking his way and the path to escape was open (DOESN'T THAT MATTER?) -- Travis had remained on the left side of the truck and had not fired, and neither had his father Greg (everything was fine so far) -- then Arbery irrationally and aggressively chose to turn sharply to the left, charge across in front of the truck, and attack Travis.

It's right there on the video, and yet a jury, backed by most of the country on both sides of the political spectrum, have concluded that these guys are guilty of murder. I can't come close to expressing the disgust I feel at that.

144 posted on 11/24/2021 5:02:26 PM PST by GJones2 ( Arbery case: outrageous prosecution. Self-defense: Arbery attacked McMichael)
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To: Mr Rogers
And the jury obviously agreed with my take.

The Jury obviously noticed the horde of militants outside threatening to burn down the city if the "wrong" verdict happened. They then convinced themselves that doing what the mob wanted was the "right" decision.

I've seen this phenomena many times before. There is even a famous psychological experiment that demonstrates it.

145 posted on 11/24/2021 5:08:23 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

I’ve been reading your comments on this post. We agree. I made the point earlier that what I’m seeing from Freepers is the equivalent of people who still think Kyle shot black people. It appears Freepers who complain about the lying press are believing everything the lying press is saying about this case.


146 posted on 11/24/2021 6:08:59 PM PST by suthener ( )
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To: GJones2

“ The man who pursued Ahmaud Arbery and recorded his fatal shooting told a responding officer that he blocked the 25-year-old Black man with his car “five times” before the young man’s alleged murder, an officer who interviewed him testified on the second day of trial.”


147 posted on 11/24/2021 8:45:31 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Blocking is not murder, and if he’d been blocked five times, it didn’t seem to have worked very well because in the final video there’s Arbery again, running down the road. That time too there was room to get by. Arbery ran to the right side of the parked truck without being shot at by either Greg or Travis, but then — with nobody blocking him and an open path ahead of him — he chose to turn sharply to the left, and cross over and attack Travis. That irrationally aggressive act cost him his life.


148 posted on 11/24/2021 9:01:59 PM PST by GJones2 ( Arbery case: outrageous prosecution. Self-defense: Arbery attacked McMichael)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Did u watch the video

I just saw it for first time the uncut

Not sure how some here find murder with malice appropriate


149 posted on 11/24/2021 11:20:58 PM PST by wardaddy (Too many uninformed ..and scolds here )
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To: Chewbarkah

That’s a very bigoted post

Full of slurs

You should be ashamed

Who are you....be honest


150 posted on 11/24/2021 11:24:06 PM PST by wardaddy (Too many uninformed ..and scolds here )
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