Posted on 11/03/2021 12:26:41 PM PDT by ransomnote
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I don’t think they increase infection - more likely those who are vaccinated aren’t taking any precautions.
If anything - this proves that the vaccines don’t stop infections or transmission.
But we knew that already. What the studies are curiously missing is the hospitalization and death rates of the vaccinated. If they’re at the same percentage (and my anecdotal/observational evidence says it is) then the vaccines do NOTHING.
It’s interesting data.
Except that it’s not a “case” if they don’t test for it.
Some of these low vax countries probably don’t have widespread or easy testing.
Data we need to be getting, but are not, should include cases and case fatality rates among vaccinated, date from vaccination to positive test, and which vaccine was given. That would be more meaningful data but they are either not collecting it or hiding it.
We're never going to get an accurate count for that. COVID has been politicized, even within the medical community.
Data proves the most vaccinated countries are wealthy fully industrialized countries with the best record keeping.
Fact. Vaccinated people catch Covid at half the rate of unvaccinated people. Vaccinated people are also more likely to get tested and show up in the data.
Fact. Unvaccinated people are much more likely to die from Covid. Depending on how you standardize the data to account for the fact that the old and sick are much more likely to be vaccinated. Unvaccinated people in the same age group with the same comorbidities are 25x to 40x more likely to die than vaccinated people.
I agree. The vaccines give a false sense of security and the vaccinated in many cities are encouraged to go out and about (while if you can’t prove, you are barred entry to many places).
The vaccinated are the super spreaders.
IBTFRVP claiming this is all a lie.
They will NEVER admit they were wrong.
Too much pride for that. After all the mockery and derision towards those of us who have been warning about these vaxes and the motives of big pharma, the CDC, FDA, and Fauxi to turn around and admit we were right after all?
I don’t see it happening.
Maybe. For some period of time. Depending on the person, when they were vaccinated, and which vaccine they got.
They do worse than nothing.
If they did nothing, there wouldn't be the vax injured and dead.
Doing nothing would be an improvement.
do we not have anyone in a position of authority that can see what is happening around the world?
tthanks ransomnote for your work on this.
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OK. Where’s the data to support your assertions?
You claim they are fact. Prove it.
Provide the data.
Anything adverse will be spun. Blame will always be shifted to the unvaxxed.
I suspect the “vaccines” work, kinda like the flu vaccines work, with various degrees of efficacy.
I think there’s more to that story that was told.
then go live in one of the countries where rates are low
False. PCR tests used to diagnose Covid are incapable of reliably diagnosing ANYTHING. The PCR tests generate more false positives at higher cycle rates and so the CDC ruled that 'vaccinated' PCR tests will be run at LOWER cycler rates and unvaccinated at higher rates in order to falsely portray 'vaccines' as 'working'. Hospitalization and death are unacceptably high(er) for the vaccinated.
Fact. Unvaccinated people are much more likely to die from Covid. Depending on how you standardize the data to account for the fact that the old and sick are much more likely to be vaccinated. Unvaccinated people in the same age group with the same comorbidities are 25x to 40x more likely to die than vaccinated people.
False. On a daily basis we're reporting data across the world that proves that the vaccines don't work and there's now areas where the 'vaccinated' are sicker and dying more often than the unvaccinated.
“Data proves the most vaccinated countries are wealthy fully industrialized countries with the best record keeping.”
I’d find that conclusion more plausible if it were tested with regional data coming from India, the US, and elsewhere. The data that I’ve seen suggest that less vaccinated regions fare equally well or better, although I’d expect record keeping to be at least as good as the more vaccinated regions.
| monkeyshine wrote: |
It’s interesting data. Data we need to be getting, but are not, should include cases and case fatality rates among vaccinated, date from vaccination to positive test, and which vaccine was given. That would be more meaningful data but they are either not collecting it or hiding it. |
* Ah, there's that world 'meaningful'. So you're saying something else would be meaningful and this isn't? Where have I heard that before?
If the data you say is needed before we can know anything (where Have I heard that before?) then the CDC would collect it, especially if it protected the CDC's propaganda campaign for the so-called 'vaccines'
Note that it's not a 'case' if they don't test for it - so they over-tested with a fake, inaccurate PCR test to make it seem like we were in a plandemic, and they still do it when it suits them, and then they limit testing when they want to portray 'vaccines' working.
We're not going to just wait until the CDC stops hiding information. We can just listen to the whistleblowers coming out of the woodwork from hospitals saying their patients are vaccinated, and the hospital they work at has stopped asking vaccination status and is recording all as 'unvaccinated'.
The CDC has lied every step of the way and is weaponized. I'm not waiting for their latest adjustment to the 'narrative' or for the CDC to 'collect' information 'we need' because they had time to improve VAERS and make it accurate, but they chose not to. Instead, in the year leading up to the release of the vaccine, they created a separate database for themselves which the public cannot access in order to secretly record/hide vaccine harm from the public. Oh and a whistleblower has come forward saying the CMS database (Medicare) is housing 45 thousand reports of deaths within 3 days of 'vaccination' that it is not reporting to VAERS, and there are 11 other databases that feed VAERS.
The CDC is in charge of propaganda, and even they can't hide the damage and death caused by their fake vaccines.
| Skywise wrote: |
I don’t think they increase infection - more likely those who are vaccinated aren’t taking any precautions. If anything - this proves that the vaccines don’t stop infections or transmission. But we knew that already. What the studies are curiously missing is the hospitalization and death rates of the vaccinated. If they’re at the same percentage (and my anecdotal/observational evidence says it is) then the vaccines do NOTHING. |
What's curious is anytime I post a less than flattering article about the toxic 'vaccines' people show up to say it's meaningless and it's missing information. I wonder if those same posts ever noticed the CDC's swiss cheese justifications and meaningless PCR tests and cycle rates, and fake terms 'asymptomatic' and 'vaccine' and 'super spreader' or their fake reliance on masks etc.. It's just curious.
The technology upon which mRNA's are based always demonstrated a substantial amount of increased infectivity following vaccination. The 'vaccines' were never improved, and now they are being used on people who, like the animal trials, are experiencing increased infectivity following vaccination.
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