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The false potential of 'alternatives' to Covid-19 vaccines. PREVNAR13 and Baracitinib are insultingly inferior options. GIVE US AND OUR DOCTORS IVERMECTIN, HCQ/AZ and real choices, NOW!
9/3/2021 | vanity

Posted on 09/03/2021 10:43:00 PM PDT by ransomnote

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To: Pelham

>> The spike protein is what the virus uses to attach to ACE2 receptors.

Why is diabetic comorbidity a factor? Any specifics?

I don’t recall diabetics suffering primarily from respiratory issues. But they seam to be a prime target for SARS. Why?

Months ago, I stumbled on a clinical report that described the effects of certain diabetic meds. The curious behavior concerned the impact of ACE1 down-regulation as it was observed to increase ACE2 expression.

Diabetic meds that enhance the receptivity of SARS? Is that possible?


21 posted on 09/03/2021 11:40:34 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Pelham
So what is your basis for calling the spike a toxin?

a.) My extensive medical training (hahahaha).

b.) I didn't call it a toxin. That other guy did.

c.) I have read MANY articles by experts right here on FreeRepublic.com that refer to spike proteins as toxins.

d.) I follow the science.

e.) I am not a science denier.

f.) I am not a sheep or a lab rabbit.

g.) I do not listen to obvious lying scum with 'medical training' (i.e. Fauci, CDC, NIH, WHO, socialized government 'medical community').

You?


22 posted on 09/03/2021 11:41:20 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: ransomnote
Where DID you get your medical training?

Did you get your medical knowledge from this guy?


23 posted on 09/03/2021 11:42:46 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Pelham

Here, let an actual scientist explain this to you - it’s in video format, so your reading skills won’t matter.

https://rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-these-jabs-do-to-the-brain-and-other-organs.html


24 posted on 09/03/2021 11:43:08 PM PDT by datura (The voice that brought you peace has nothing left to say.)
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To: ransomnote

“I answered it.”

No you didn’t. And now you’ve chosen to lie about your failure to answer.

This isn’t a surprise. Your behavior answers the question for you. Thanks for playing.


25 posted on 09/03/2021 11:43:51 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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To: ransomnote

I read just today that serious adverse reactions may not be attributed to the ‘shot’ or ‘jab’ during the first 14 days following the procedure.

That ought to help keep the bad numbers down — if the victims are already six-feet under!


26 posted on 09/03/2021 11:45:03 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (An Honors Graduate from the Don Rickles School of Personal Verbal Intercourse)
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To: Pelham; ransomnote

>> Did you ever tell us where you got your medical training?

Be careful not to arbitrarily disqualify investigative reporting. It’s rare commodity these days.


27 posted on 09/03/2021 11:45:55 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: datura

Actual scientists publish at PubMed, NIH, NCBI, Nature. The fact that you aren’t able to come up with one is a sufficient answer.


28 posted on 09/03/2021 11:46:26 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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To: Oscar in Batangas

In the first 14 days after vaccination - regardless of how many one has had - the person is considered unvaccinated by the CDC.

It’s science, yo.


29 posted on 09/03/2021 11:46:58 PM PDT by datura (The voice that brought you peace has nothing left to say.)
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To: Pelham

Wow, nice statist places. So glad you trust only those VP.

Nature? Why not the Atlantic or New Yorker?

Of course you’re far more qualified than the pathologist in that video.

While we are at it Mr Oniw It All, what are YOUR medical qualifications??

Go vax yourself.


30 posted on 09/03/2021 11:49:34 PM PDT by datura (The voice that brought you peace has nothing left to say.)
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To: jonrick46

I don’t know that guy.

I provided CDC data from VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System) specifically provided to the public, and drug company information for consumers about the product they make. Is that too much for your sensibilities? Am I getting above my station? Should I forget I am a consumer and begin to don the servile attitude of a slave?

I am amazed you thirst for the right to be a sheep. You don’t WANT to read information specifically published for the consumer to use when selecting treatment options. But why try to force the rest of us to trust people actively betraying us for almost 2 years now?

You do you. Climb into the sheep chute and wait for your turn.

But some of us are not sheep and we decide what treatments we accept.


31 posted on 09/03/2021 11:49:35 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

This.


32 posted on 09/03/2021 11:51:28 PM PDT by datura (The voice that brought you peace has nothing left to say.)
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To: Gene Eric

I didn’t ask ransomnote about investigative reporting. An investigative reporter doesn’t need a medical education and would be fine acknowledging that fact. And that’s because they cite sources rather than render their own judgement.


33 posted on 09/03/2021 11:51:33 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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To: Oscar in Batangas

I read just today that serious adverse reactions may not be attributed to the ‘shot’ or ‘jab’ during the first 14 days following the procedure.

That ought to help keep the bad numbers down — if the victims are already six-feet under!
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Yes. Those unfortunates are called ‘unvaccinated’ and the vaccinated public is encouraged to hate and fear them, and snicker when they die.

When they do die, in unexplainable numbers, they are often deemed “Covid” deaths.


34 posted on 09/03/2021 11:51:53 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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Pelham, now you just sound petty and mad that she shut you down so hard.

We get it. Nobody that doesn't have 'medical training' is allowed to have an opinion. We need to just do what Fauci says, stfu, and take our medicine like good livestock.

I have a feeling that Ransomnote will not be silenced by your medical elitist bullying.

She represents the true American spirit, so she represents more people than you can know. Your attempts to shame her into silence is like pissing on the sun to put it out.


35 posted on 09/03/2021 11:52:41 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Pelham; ransomnote

FYI - ransomnote has posted a large volume of actual scientific research here that is very well sourced and footnoted - not his opinion.

How about you other than ad hominem attacks devoid of actual merit?


36 posted on 09/03/2021 11:54:44 PM PDT by datura (The voice that brought you peace has nothing left to say.)
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To: Pelham

“I answered it.”

No you didn’t. And now you’ve chosen to lie about your failure to answer.

This isn’t a surprise. Your behavior answers the question for you. Thanks for playing.
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You claim authority you don’t actually have.
You created fake criteria for me to meet. I reject your tactics for what they are - disinformation.

I am citing information specifically made available to the public for consumer use. You want to play games and imply that data I cited is for physicians only, be my guest. But don’t expect me to humor you.


37 posted on 09/03/2021 11:54:44 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Oscar in Batangas

Did you actually think that your immune system produces antibodies immediately upon receiving the vaccine injection?


38 posted on 09/03/2021 11:55:12 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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To: Pelham
Actual scientists publish at PubMed, NIH, NCBI, Nature. The fact that you aren’t able to come up with one is a sufficient answer.

Oh, laws. If you're not aware by now that the 'upper crust' of the 'medical community is hopelessly corrupt and controlled by now, then you just haven't been paying attention.

There is more truth among rogue, independent science, researchers, and doctors than ALL of those things you just cited.

We have a fundamental disagreement on that, which probly won't be overcome until you realize that.


39 posted on 09/03/2021 11:56:41 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Pelham

Instead of insulting our FRiend, how about providing a coherent, critical paragraph of your objections to the material.


40 posted on 09/03/2021 11:57:06 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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