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Majority of population likely has pre-existing immunity to SARS-CoV-2, claim researchers
News-Medical.Net ^ | Nov 9 2020 | Sally Robertson

Posted on 09/01/2021 11:31:05 PM PDT by Grandpa Drudge

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To: Vendome

I got mine at a local doc in the box chain.


21 posted on 09/02/2021 4:08:34 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: Vendome

I should say I had the blood draw done there and they sent my sample out to a lab they were using. Got the results back in a few days.


22 posted on 09/02/2021 4:10:32 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: ransomnote

I’m not sure where you’re getting your info that those with SARS 1 were immune to SARS2 or sARS 2Delta?

“Before vaccination, survivors of SARS-CoV-1 infection had detectable neutralizing antibodies against SARS-CoV-1 but no or only low levels of anti–SARS-CoV-2 neutralizing antibodies (Table S1 in the Supplementary Appendix).”

” After receiving two doses of the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine, all eight participants had high levels of neutralizing antibodies against both SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2. “

[key word here is vaccinated:] “As shown in Figure 1A, the SARS-CoV-1–vaccinated serum panel was the only group with a broad spectrum of neutralizing antibodies against all 10 sarbecoviruses...”

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108453?query=TOC&cid=NEJM+eToc%2C+August+19%2C+2021+DM226921_NEJM_Non_Subscriber&bid=584951384


23 posted on 09/02/2021 4:17:18 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: Grandpa Drudge

Thanks for the info, I probably got the wrong test done then, since I ordered it myself and not thru a doctor. I’m looking to test for natural immunity, since I have not been vaccinated (and my relationship with my doctor is not great right now because of it).


24 posted on 09/02/2021 4:25:59 AM PDT by Mozzafiato
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To: Psalm 73
I'm right there with you,and wish you the best!

I'm several years older, but in good condition for my age, and really concentrate on healthy nutrition, along with plenty of vitamins and supplements.

Even though I'm at high risk from Covid-19, I think I'm at equally high risk from the current Covid vaccines. I would rather take my chances on the disease itself, knowing that IF I survive, my resulting immunity from future infections would be far superior to any vaccine.

I remember from my long ago youth attending measles and chicken pox parties with the same attitude.

25 posted on 09/02/2021 4:30:18 AM PDT by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my great grandchildren.)
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To: Mozzafiato

Funny you should ask that. I tried to post yesterday but apparently one of the mods has a burr up their backside about my prior posts and deleted it 3x in a row over the course of hours, finally giving me a BS answer (in a nutshell, it has a word, starts with c).

Below is what >$250 bought me; judge for yourself.

Your result
T-Detect COVID: Negative
Results were inconsistent with recent or prior SARS-CoV-2 infection in the sample assessed. A negative result does not preclude acute SARS-CoV-2 infection.*

A T-cell response is typically detectable in blood several days after initial infection. The duration of this response post-infection and the implication for immunity is currently unknown (Tay MZ, et al. Nat Immunol Rev. 2020;20(6):363-374).

*False positive and false negative results may occur for reasons including, but not limited to technical, laboratory processing and/or biological factors (e.g. number of T-cells assessed).
T-DETECT COVID
The T-Detect COVID test can determine whether you’ve had an immune response to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. If the test shows you’ve had an immune response, it means you likely had COVID-19 in the past. This test cannot tell you whether you have a current COVID-19 infection.

NEXT STEPS
● Due to the lack of evidence to support protective immunity, if you are exposed, monitor for symptoms of COVID-19. If you develop severe or concerning symptoms, seek medical attention right away.
● Be sure to continue to follow federal, state, and local government guidance regarding social distancing and COVID-19 safety precautions.
● Share these results with your healthcare provider, who can answer any questions you may have about your specific situation.
● If you have questions about this test or your results, you can contact the PWNHealth Care Coordination Team at 315-401-7865, 8am to 11pm Eastern Time, or email us at covid19@pwnhealth.com. You can also leave a message after hours and a PWNHealth team member will call you back as soon as possible.
FDA DISCLAIMERS
T-DetectTM COVID test is not FDA cleared or approved. This test is only for in vitro diagnostic use under the FDA Emergency Use Authorization. This test is for prescription use only.

The T-Detect COVID test can detect an immune response to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19 disease, to assess recent or prior infection. It is not intended for the diagnosis of active/current SARS-CoV-2 infection.

This test has not been FDA cleared or approved; this test has been authorized by FDA under an EUA for use by laboratories certified under the Clinical Laboratory Improvement Amendments of 1988 (CLIA), 42 U.S.C. 263a, that meet requirements to perform moderate or high complexity tests.

This test is only authorized for the duration of the declaration that circumstances exist justifying the authorization of the emergency use of in vitro diagnostic tests for detection and/or diagnosis of COVID-19 under section 564(b)(1) of the Act, 21 U.S.C. § 360bbb- 3(b)(1), unless the authorization is terminated or revoked sooner.

T-DetectTM COVID is not indicated for use in patients under age 18


26 posted on 09/02/2021 4:40:14 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Mozzafiato
Interesting! I have the same problem - my doctor thinks everyone MUST get vaccinated, even after knowing about my flu vaccine experience. (He thinks it's important I get flu shots every year, too.)

I'm reluctant to try to change his mind - he's much too busy for that.

I'm currently looking for a "second opinion" doctor who will order the correct test for me.

27 posted on 09/02/2021 4:45:00 AM PDT by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my great grandchildren.)
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To: ransomnote

Bkmrk


28 posted on 09/02/2021 5:05:46 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (RIP my "teddy bear". )
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To: dadfly

My wife had COVID six months ago. We made no effort to quarantine from each other and lived as a normal husband and wife. I never got it. A few days ago I got the test for the COVID antibodies and that came back negative. So why did I not get it from my wife? Was I just lucky or do I have some sort of pre-existing immunity that does not show up in the COVID antibody test?


29 posted on 09/02/2021 5:10:00 AM PDT by KevinB (''... and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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To: KevinB

“Was I just lucky”

I bet if you go and take the test several times you will have several different results.


30 posted on 09/02/2021 5:13:37 AM PDT by VastRWCon (Fake News")
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To: KevinB
Was I just lucky or do I have some sort of pre-existing immunity that does not show up in the COVID antibody test?

What's your blood type? Type O seems to be less susceptible.
31 posted on 09/02/2021 5:16:49 AM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: dadfly

We have friends who are a family of 4. Dad gets sick a couple of days before they are leaving their vacation to drive home. They drive 12 hours together with the widows up and AC on. He tests positive for Covid but none of the other family members do. How does that happen?


32 posted on 09/02/2021 5:18:11 AM PDT by Treeless Branch
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To: BikerJoe
What's your blood type?

I'm embarrassed to admit that I have no idea. :-)

33 posted on 09/02/2021 6:17:26 AM PDT by KevinB (''... and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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To: Grandpa Drudge

for later


34 posted on 09/02/2021 7:19:50 AM PDT by Paleo Pete (The slave does not dream of freedom, the slave dreams of being master.)
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To: KevinB; Treeless Branch

good questions, i’ll give probably an unsatisfactory answer but you deserve a response. the theory now is that the “vector” is aerosol spread to the nasal passages which seems plausible. much more than the Olympic sneeze or surface contact early theories.

so, my understanding is that they (statisticians called epidemiologists) make an RO calc on the probability of successful spread given the time and circumstances of exposure. it’s an estimate and not hard science by any means. the environment plays a huge role.

then your own many layered, many faceted immune system which has been memorizing pathogens as you survive them through out your life kicks in starting at your skin layer. if it knows the pathogen and it’s not compromised, it can destroy it. it either works or it doesn’t. if you get sick and start spreading yourself, it didn’t work. it can also overreact and thats a different story.

another factor is supplements and treatments applied to attack the pathogen directly. that’s been covered extensively. your first treatment was given by your mom in the womb.

imo, all of it plays in to whether you get it or not even if you’re in close quarters. so anyway, i’m not surprised that a bunch of people have some sort of pre-existing protection against what is a type of cold virus which have been with us since Adam got us kicked out of Eden.


35 posted on 09/02/2021 10:11:59 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: KevinB
You don't say which antibody test you got. If you got the LabCorp supplied test # 164090 (the one LabCorp delivers for the public to order for a $10 prescribing doctor fee) That one does NOT test for natural immunity at all, and that is made clear in the LabCorp documentation for 164090. 164090 is actually designed to test for antibodies to the vaccine generated spike protein (Covid similar) introduced in the vaccine. The disclaimer in the description of that test makes it clear that 164090 does NOT test for antibodies produced by natural recovery from Covid-19 infection.

LabCorp test # 164068 DOES test (according to LabCorp documentation) for antibodies produced by natural recovery from Covid-19 infection.

I suggest you have a golden opportunity to help us all to answer a couple of questions.

First, assume your wife REALLY DID have Covid-19 and you REALLY DID NOT, as you describe.

Now, order and get LabCorp SARS-CoV-2 Antibodies nucleocapsid test # 194068 for both of you.

If your wife actually had Covid-19 she should test positive on this test. If your test shows positive that should indicate that you also have natural immunity from Covid-19, possibly from an earlier non-symptomatic infection. (non-symptomatic infections from covid-19 are statistically reported to be commonplace)

I, for one, would REALLY like to know the results you get from that.

36 posted on 09/02/2021 11:23:23 AM PDT by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my great grandchildren.)
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To: KevinB; All
Supplementary comments re: my previous response to you:

About Covid-19 testing in general:

If the results of the LabCorp test 194068 returns a positive indication for both you and your wife that indicates the test is a good way to prove that the vaccine is NOT appropriate for both her and you, as you both already have superior immunity to Covid-19, and should NOT endure any further risk from the vaccine.

If the results of the LabCorp test 194068 returns a positive indication for your wife and a negative indication for you that indicates the test is a good way to prove that the vaccine is NOT appropriate for her, as she already has superior immunity to Covid-19, and should NOT endure any further risk from the vaccine.
But it also indicates transmission to everyone (including specifically you) is NOT inevitable, as other forms of immunity may be present.

If the results of the LabCorp test 194068 returns a negative indication for both you and your wife that indicates the conclusion your wife actually had Covid-19 was incorrect. It also means that the testing that indicated she HAD Covid-19 was invalid, for some reason, and in my opinion needs to explored and exposed to the public in light of all the "Mandates" presently being enforced.

(not the least question of whether this "plandemic" is actually real or not)

If the results of the LabCorp test 194068 returns a negative indication for your wife and a positive indication for you that would be quite amazing to me. The first word that comes to mind is "inconceivable" (I really don't expect that will happen, but if it does, back to the drawing board.)

37 posted on 09/02/2021 12:46:35 PM PDT by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my great grandchildren.)
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To: Grandpa Drudge
Grandpa, wow, thank you for your thorough responses!

Both my wife and I got the antibody test at the pharmacy at Harris Teeter. It was $25 for each test. We didn't pay attention to what the test was. I called the pharmacy in response to your post. The pharmacist said it was simply an IGG antibody test. I asked whether it was Labcorp 194068 and she said she didn't think so.

My wife had symptoms of COVID and tested positive six months ago. I got tested a week or so after she first noticed symptoms and tested negative. My wife's symptoms were mild and she was over it in a week. I never experienced any symptoms at all even though we lived our lives as normal within the confines of our house.

A couple of weeks ago, my wife decided she wanted to see if she had the antibodies and I figured it might be interesting for me to find out if I had them as well. The Harris Teeter test showed that she had the antibodies but I did not.

So that's the question. Why didn't I catch it from her? Do I have some sort of natural immunity from this disease?

38 posted on 09/02/2021 1:48:52 PM PDT by KevinB (''... and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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To: Grandpa Drudge
Now, order and get LabCorp SARS-CoV-2 Antibodies nucleocapsid test # 194068 for both of you.

How would I go about that?

39 posted on 09/02/2021 1:53:48 PM PDT by KevinB (''... and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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To: KevinB
Review my post #9 above to make sure you understand the details. Then go to your doctor and request him to order this specific test from LabCorp for each of you. (you cannot order it directly - it must be ordered by a doctor, according to LabCorp rules.)

You will need 2 orders, one for each of you. Be sure to get this specific test: LabCorp SARS-CoV-2 Antibodies nucleocapsid test # 194068

40 posted on 09/02/2021 2:28:42 PM PDT by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my great grandchildren.)
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