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Harvard Epidemiologist Says the Case for COVID Vaccine Passports Was Just Demolished: New research found that natural immunity offers exponentially more protection than COVID-19 vaccines
Foundation for Economic Education ^ | 08/30/2021 | Jon Militmore

Posted on 08/30/2021 9:31:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

We’ve seen this show before in Nazi Germany. I can’t believe a vaxport is actually being considered in the so-call land of the free and home of the brave.

I guess we will have to change that to the land of the sheeple on their knees and the home of the slaves.

Insanity abounds!


21 posted on 08/30/2021 11:41:50 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism ruins everything it touches. NUTS - Not United Troubled States.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Harvard Epidemiologist might want to explain how people are going to get, and live thru sufficient damage from covid, to obtain immunity that, as the study says, also wanes.

“When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated,”

“Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.”

I think it would also be safe to say that those who were victims of breakthrough infections were not travelers or partyers and so not so ‘responsible’ for spreading infection as the hysterical would like people to believe:

“They range from diabetes to heart disease and lung ailments, as well as cancers and inflammatory diseases that are treated with immune-system suppressing drugs”

from Israel itself:

” 600 patients presently hospitalized with severe illness have received two doses of the Pfizer Inc (PFE.N) shot, a rare occurrence out of 5.4 million fully vaccinated people.”

“Among 3 million vaccinated Israelis covered by Clalit, the country’s largest healthcare provider, 600 have suffered severe breakthrough cases since June. Around 75% of them were above the age of 70 and were at least 5 months after their second dose, according to Ran Balicer, Clalit’s chief innovation officer. Nearly all of them have chronic illnesses.”

“”The vaccinated patients I’ve treated usually left the ICU in about three days. The unvaccinated patients took a week or two until they stabilized,” said Yael Haviv-Yadid, head of the critical care ward at Sheba Medical Centre near Tel Aviv.”

“In contrast, “the unvaccinated COVID patients we see are young, healthy, working people and their condition deteriorates rapidly,” she said. “Suddenly they’re being put on oxygen or on a respirator.”

“The vaccinated patients are older, unhealthy, often they were bedridden before infection, immobile and already requiring nursing care,” said Noa Eliakim-Raz, head of the coronavirus ward at Rabin Medical Centre in Petach Tikva.

from the US:
“ Nearly three-quarters of U.S. breakthrough infections that led to hospitalization or death were among people age 65 or older, according to federal data.”

from Texas:
“In Texas, 92% of the vaccine breakthrough cases that resulted in death were in people over the age of 60 and 75% had a known underlying condition”

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-doctors-find-severe-covid-19-breakthrough-cases-mostly-older-sicker-2021-08-20/


22 posted on 08/30/2021 11:52:55 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: SeekAndFind

totally agree with testing - especially before getting vaccinated.

I think in Europe, vaccine passports will go over. For some reason europeans love their paperwork. Remember when we were closing int’l travel? and the foreign residents were all complaining nobody asked or gave them covid ‘paperwork’ before they left the airports? They’re into it. But outside of europe? maybe some asian countries but by the time it’s all instituted, the pandemic will have burned out and it will be wasted dollars


23 posted on 08/31/2021 12:02:33 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: SeekAndFind

BTTT


24 posted on 08/31/2021 12:27:11 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: bhl

I rather take a chance with catching covid than being vaxxed and having my face paralyzed or a blood clot and still catch covid anyway. But you do you. follow the sheep


25 posted on 08/31/2021 12:32:56 AM PDT by roving
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To: bhl

But it gives you immunity.

The vax does not.

They are slow walking the idea that, vaxed or not, you will get covid.


26 posted on 08/31/2021 6:27:47 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: DennisR

Mine are higher.

Had it in November.


27 posted on 08/31/2021 6:28:36 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: conservativeimage

Look at the Monsanto seed patents.

They wanted to go after all who held back seed, non Monsanto seed, because they held the patent on the plant.

Only got stopped by the EU, the US had started prosecuting farmers who didn’t plant monsanto seed, but their neighbors had.


28 posted on 08/31/2021 6:30:26 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: redgolum

Your 3 assertions are not quite accurate.

People have gotten covid two times. So getting COVID gives you _some_ immunity, for an unknown amount of time.

The current vaccines also gives some, perhaps less, immunity,
for a little bit of time.

People will get covid zero or more times in their life. Some will get mild cases, some will continue to die from severe cases.

The other unknown: If you’re vaccinated and get a breakthrough case, do you still get the improved immunity..


29 posted on 08/31/2021 1:21:02 PM PDT by bhl
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To: redgolum

Great! 👍🏻👍🏻


30 posted on 08/31/2021 6:22:56 PM PDT by DennisR (Uh Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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One of the healthiest 53 year olds on the planet and he was wiped out for 2 days and had to source and consume a cocktail of drugs. If you’re as strong and tough as him you should be fine without the vaccine. Or you can join the rest of humanity and maybe get a mild case and build the same immunity.


31 posted on 09/01/2021 7:50:47 PM PDT by bhl
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To: SeekAndFind

And now, there are claims that a “variant” out of South Africa is so virulent that not even natural immunity works against it.

Imagine that.

All of a sudden. Like magic.

Prove natural immunity is better than the death-jab and presto chango! a new variant that natural immunity won’t work against.

And the truly stupid still won’t see the pattern in play.


32 posted on 09/01/2021 7:53:50 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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Prove natural immunity is better than the death-jab and presto chango! a new variant that natural immunity won’t work against.

BUT, current jabs will work against it. Like magic ....

33 posted on 09/01/2021 7:59:10 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: blueplum

That’s a lot of cutting and pasting. Do you get paid by the word or the line?


34 posted on 09/02/2021 5:26:48 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Irish lives matter!)
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