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Weighing the risks of COVID vaccines against the risk of the COVID virus
mlive.com ^ | August 29, 2021 | Julie Mack

Posted on 08/29/2021 12:15:47 PM PDT by be-baw

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To: be-baw

Julie Mack, Pfizer Public relations

Censorship destroys trust. Stop the one sided talking points and at least the skeptical will listen.

Of course, they can’t do that can they.


61 posted on 08/29/2021 2:24:39 PM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers)
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To: be-baw

That’s crap talk.

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62 posted on 08/29/2021 2:44:26 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: one guy in new jersey

Flow chart doctors ONLY know what the flow chart tells them (see ‘Idiocracy” for reference) thats where we are today. Some overpaid politician says something everyone has to believe it.
I’m not ‘vaxxed’ and don’t plan to be. I will most likely lose all my military benefits for opting out. AND Yes I OPT OUT, Only Nazi’s and Communists FORCE inoculations, shots, experimental treatments.


63 posted on 08/29/2021 2:47:16 PM PDT by Conservative4Life (thy merchants were great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. Rev18:23)
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To: roving

roving wrote: “The problem are all the vaxx liars.”

That problem is worse with the anti-vaxxers.


64 posted on 08/29/2021 2:52:25 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

biden, fauxi, and the cdc recommending vaccines for our citizens to stop the spread of a virus while biden opens the border, invites, welcomes, and freely spreads hundreds of thousands of disease carrying invaders across our country during a “global pandemic” reeks of hypocrisy, proves our government officials don’t care about our health, and anything they preach shouldn’t be trusted...


65 posted on 08/29/2021 3:03:56 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: be-baw

Based on this Ignore Israel as well.


66 posted on 08/29/2021 3:15:08 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: be-baw

” Dr. Mark Hamed has seen hundreds of patients with COVID-19, but no one with a bad reaction to a COVID vaccine. “Not one,” said Hamed”

Hamed’s a liar ...


67 posted on 08/29/2021 3:15:27 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: nikos1121

If you’ve already had this 99.95% benign cold and survived, then natural immunity is far superior to a vaccine that’s losing its efficacy over time.


68 posted on 08/29/2021 3:17:51 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: be-baw
And what do the long term studies say about potential side effects, down the road, from this new mRNA gene therapy?

They say nothing, because there are no long term studies.

There are many eminent doctors and scientists who are very wary of these "vaccines" and there is evidence that they are producing the variants.

If I was in a high risk group, I might think about it, but I'm not.

The fear porn, "vax everyone" industry is guilty of using rare case to terrorize the population.

" Otherwise healthy young person dies from CCP Virus and wishes they were vaxxed."

They are usually morbidly obese, probably have diabetes, hypertension and a weak heart.

69 posted on 08/29/2021 3:32:48 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix circa 1984.)
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To: John S Mosby
Are there known animal reservoirs for the CCP virus?

Have they actually, truly found this virus in bat populations or does this virus not exist in the wild?

As far as I've been able to determine, they have not found this virus existing in an animal population.

I know some animals have tested positive for it but does that mean a reservoir?

I know that it was recently found to be widespread in farmed mink in Scandanavia but no one seems to believe that it originated naturally there and then jumped to humans.

70 posted on 08/29/2021 3:51:50 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix circa 1984.)
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To: DugwayDuke
So you would avoid a medication that only made your symptoms milder?

Aspirin has a pretty good track record for safe effective use. The story I shared was an analogy. I have taken many more vaccines than most and even remember TB sanitariums that were common in my youth and of course we all feared polio and I took that vaccine with out question but I seriously question this one because I am not as naive as I was in my youth.

71 posted on 08/29/2021 4:23:04 PM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Duke....
I’m not anti-Vax. I’m just very suspicious
and distrustful of a government that
would force me to do something I don’t
want to do. (like wearing a seatbelt, or
getting vaccinated). I’m also distrustful
when our government would promote
someone losing their job because
they choose to not get vaccinated.
And I’m also distrustful of a
government that forces it’s citizens
to get vaccinated while over 1,000,000
illegal alien invaders have crossed
our southern border and not a single
one has been vaccinated along with
thousands of Afghans being flown in.
I find this to be hyper hypocritical.
I’m also distrustful of a government
that Obfuscates alternative treat-
ments that have been proven to work.
(ref. India), and instead force these
these vaccines as the only treatment
for COVID.


72 posted on 08/29/2021 4:50:41 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: be-baw

The problem with this is, you can’t get honest and accurate data about the risks of the vaccines.

No one, no one can telll you the long term risks and suppression and lies abound in the short term risk because politics is driving all of this, and thr push for universal vaccination storyline Does not allow for any negative data to be available about them.


73 posted on 08/29/2021 4:53:37 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: DugwayDuke
Can you name two or three vaccines that are 100% effective?

I'm looking up some numbers to try and find someone who received pre-exposure prophylaxis and appropriate boosters and still developed rabies, but RabAvert is highly effective.

Rabies is highly lethal in humans, almost a 100% lethality.

The 3 shot series is ~$700-800.

You need to have a RFFIT test to determine antibody levels and if a booster is indicated.

74 posted on 08/29/2021 5:05:51 PM PDT by Fury
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To: nikos1121

You will get the virus even if vaccinated so what’s your point exactly? The vaccine doesn’t prevent infection. Symptoms “ should” be milder? Maybe. The initial efficacy for Pfizer was claimed to be 95%. Not 93 or 96 or 97.5, but a nice even 95, convenient no? Nice memorable number, almost like a made-up claim.

Now the efficacy is put as low as 62%. Check the latest data. And falling with time. Thousands of vaccinated people have died. Thousands more in hospital. The claims were absolutely bogus and wrong. So are you sure it will work as advertised? Studies say this, studies say that. We know the initial studies were completely wrong. Sure your claims are based in anything but studies that are in fact proven wrong by events?


75 posted on 08/29/2021 5:33:14 PM PDT by libertarian66
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To: be-baw

Danger of harm to vaccinated, 1 in a hundred thousand. Higher (heart) for some.
Danger of harm from covid: 1 in a thousand. (Higher for some)

This math is easy: 1 to 100.


76 posted on 08/29/2021 6:47:59 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: be-baw

I know three people who have had bad reactions and one of them is in the ICU right now.
He is a healthy 19 year old who had a stroke seconds after getting the clot shot.
This “doctor” is full of shit!


77 posted on 08/29/2021 6:53:27 PM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: nikos1121

I doubt it. I have been exposed several times and not gotten the virus. I know a few people who have the same experience.
There are a lot of unexplained variables.


78 posted on 08/29/2021 6:57:23 PM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: libertarian66

I really don’t know what is factual. I’m a doctor I’m not seeing vaccinated people dying. Some sick? Yes.


79 posted on 08/30/2021 1:31:05 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: EEGator

Here you go porkchop. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6642332/


80 posted on 08/30/2021 2:08:11 AM PDT by LumberJack53213
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