Posted on 08/11/2021 7:51:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Wow, where can WE buy that!
Sickening.
A dewormer? What if we don’t have worms?!?!? :-))
A prominent freeper who desperately asked for help here first of July when her entire family was struck with Covid and were quite ill tried Ivermectin
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3974843/posts
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3982676/posts
It did not work
She died last week from Covid
The way some posters treated her here was THE WORST BEHAVIOR IVE SEEN HERE IN 21 years
and that is saying something isn’t it...
It’s chilling to read her pleas
And now she’s gone
Just awful how way too many Freepers are in real life.....jackasses.....sour sniping scolds....so what if their politics are somewhat right...really
There is pretty much bullshit on Covid at every angle...
U can buy it at tractor supply or online
Does it work
Well I just posted where if did nothing for the freeper who just died from Covid
I’m ultra high risk
Pacemaker
Pulmonary scar tissue bad
Cardio crap
Old
I took malaria protocol hydroxchloroquine as a prophylaxis
I took it malaria therapeutic when my whole family got it from Kali
I was mildly ill two days with extreme mucous
I also took Zithromax and zinc elixir ...the latter awful
It worked for me..my antibodies 17 months later are 18 times negative range
But I don’t know that it’s a cure all
It seems the monoclated antibodies are the best bet...
Which is what terart ..RIP...was trying desperately to get and hospital protocol kept putting up roadblocks
hard to sort through the noise there, but the standout feature is ivermectin is seen as best as a prophylactic/very early replication inhibitor. it sounds like that poster was taking the prophylactic protocol despite knowing they had the disease.
once it gets into lower respiratory, it isn’t going to help.
i travel and i certainly take the prophylactic protocol, but I know if I do catch it and do get into more serious symptoms, following the Ivm. protocol ceases to matter, and it is time to have Plan B (which hopefully includes an MD will will rx something other than bed rest and tylenol)l
also my take is there is perception that delta replication rate is higher; this may render existing ivm prophylactic protocol less effective as well.
bad bad deal by any measurement.
People should have the right to try to trust their own genetics to be asymptomatic, and if that fails then they should have access to therapeutics to treat the virus.
Vaccination is not the only path forward for the normally healthy.
-PJ
A prominent freeper who desperately asked for help here first of July when her entire family was struck with Covid and were quite ill tried Ivermectin.
That is anecdotal, one case. However, the medical community is killing thousands with their current early treatment. Which is nothing. Go home, if you feel your on the brink of death come back.
There should be an Operation Warp Speed for therapeutics. How in the hell can there be no treatment a year-and-a-half later?
COVID killed a young friend (30 years old) Sunday. He died at home with no treatment. Another weightlifter friend looks like an 80 year old man (walking pneumonia), no treatment. Just go home and heal. Return if you think you’re dying.
This is the best medial science has to offer? And finally yes, I wish we were more respectful and agued our cases without getting personal.
Then it'll kill you. Make sure you have worms first.
I posted this earlier somewhere
Need some input concerning using Ivermectin
8/10/2021, 10:37:47 AM · 252 of 259
wardaddy to Responsibility2nd; Mom MD; Pelham; gas_dr
Lordy
I just saw this....how sad
Failed by everyone except two docs on this forum who gave her supportive replies
Why does it kill decent people and some old asshole like me with bad heart and pacemaker and scarred lungs running 60% it’s a like a mild two day cold
I don’t understand it....I took several tropical regimens of plaquenil and zpaks
I can’t say that’s why definitively ....good relatively healthy folks do die from it
That’s what makes it scary
The axis or intersection as they say today....of politics and tech and media and science and some medical lefties have literally resulted in folks dying who may have lived
The monoclated (sic) antibodies treatment advocated here may have made a difference
This is just so heart rending...poor woman desperate for her son and it kills her
Damn
Plus one
It does seem more serious covid is two phase
It is certainly no hoax
The medical websites I’ve been reading indicate that MABs like bamlanivimab will not be administered when blood oxygen is too low. That’s a consistent policy among them. They say that MABs “may be” associated with worse outcomes for covid patients who require oxygen or who are hospitalized. I recall terart posting that she was denied a med because her O2 needed to be 95%. She was in a tough spot but I’m not sure that there was any malpractice involved.
“but the standout feature is ivermectin is seen as best as a prophylactic/very early replication inhibitor.”
HCQ + zinc has prophylactic effect, interfering with replication of the virus. At least if you can catch it early.
But it looks to me like ivermectin is being used differently, as an immune suppressor to fight the hyperinflammatory cytokine storms that cause severe covid. I think that prednisone is used for the same purpose and may be the preferred drug.
“There should be an Operation Warp Speed for therapeutics. How in the hell can there be no treatment a year-and-a-half later?”
Considering that a good portion of the world’s population is using Ivermectin and considering that there is no ‘approved’ early treatment that it would displace, it would seem to make sense to give it some serious trails...but funny that seems to NEVER happen. Just little 3rd World trials. For one to NOT be asking a lot of questions regarding what’s going on here would disturb me.
I see the writer has dropped the comparison between Delhi and Tamil Nadu which he had written about in dramatic language back in May/June timeframe. I wonder if that’s because the comparison played out in a way that doesn’t support his perspective as strongly as it once seemed to.
Instead he now wants to focus on Uttar Pradesh. The problem with UP is that it’s huge (India’s most populous of 33 states), poor (India’s second poorest), and rural (the sixth most rural). Frankly I don’t trust UP’s data like I do that of Delhi and TN, both of which are relatively wealthy and urban. And to compare UP with the United States is really pushing it. Does it seem credible that UP with population 240 million has only 3 deaths/day? It wouldn’t surprise me if this number were off by orders of magnitude due to poor data collection.
The writer does mention Tamil Nadu in this article but his discussion of it isn’t fair in my opinion. He condemned TN back in June when its deaths were peaking, but then when they started dropping and fell 95% he never acknowledged it. In this article he describes TN’s current cases/deaths of around 2000/30 in a population of 77 million as “ravaging” the populace. Does that seem like a fair characterization?
Bottom line for me is I think this writer is too wedded to his pro-Ivermectin perspective. At this point I consider him interesting but unreliable.
So, bottom line... you’re saying that whether or not a city or state distributes Ivermectin, the results will be the same?
Better to just do nothing like Tamil Nadu did and ride off the Delta wave?
BTW, on what basis do you say that the Health Authorities in Uttar Pradesh are less reliable in their data collection than Delhi and Tamil Nadu?
The argument you seem to be presenting sounds like this - because a state is poorer and predominantly rural, therefore the Health Authorities do not accurately collect Covid data compared to the urban areas.... I’m not sure we can make this a general principle to accept.
BTW, Data Analyst Juan Chamie also took your skeptical take into account regarding India in this discussion with Dr. Mobeen Syed in his channel:
Very interesting discussion.
If you don’t have time for the whole thing...
Start around 26:00 on the comparison of Israel and India to see the effect of vaccination vs ivermectin on the spread of the Wuhan virus (SARS-CoV-2).
Upon taking a deep dive on the data, he comes up with a different conclusion regard the effects of Ivermectin.
No, I’m saying that I’m skeptical that Ivermectin has had as much impact in India as the writer asserts. I’m not saying that IVM does nothing or that it should be avoided. I just suspect it does substantially less than its strongest advocates insist and should not be seen as an end all solution. What concerns me is that guys like the writer may be feeding a misconception that Ivermectin is a slam dunk when it’s not.
Yes, my “basis” for being wary of the UP data is indeed that it’s a huge, poor, and rural state and likely has a medical system that is thin on the ground with relatively poor data collection capability. To me this seems like a reasonable assumption.
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