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‘It didn’t have to be like this’: ICU nurse describes toll of treating COVID-19 patients
The Boston Globe ^ | 04 Aug 2021 | Amanda Kaufman

Posted on 08/06/2021 8:40:29 PM PDT by blueplum

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To: NetAddicted
Why is that nurse angry? Doesn’t sound like a nurse I’d want.

She was thrown into a situation she was not properly trained and experienced for.

If I end up in an ICU I sure as heck don't want a nurse lacking such, even more so if she's feeling like Blue Oyster Cult's "Veteran of the Psychic Wars"!

61 posted on 08/06/2021 11:33:39 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Jane Long

there’s been a lot of back and forth on VAERs, so I looked at the UK numbers and made a post about it today if you want:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3982816/posts?page=16#16

UK numbers are in the dozens and hundreds and look lower than those reported on VAERs. So yeah, it makes one’s head spin trying to figure out what is inflated and what is not. Life is risk assessment, but it’s harder to do with conflicting information.

Early treatment is absolutely paramount. I couldn’t agree more. And if you don’t like what the first doctor says go to another hospital. The problem is, the virus doesn’t hand out a card when it infects saying ‘you’ll be a mild case’ or you’ll be asymptomatic. Vaccines are like, we’re not waiting to see - get the shotgun, martha, we’ll deal with the law later. If you’re able to treat holistically, great, but understand the variant isn’t grandmas’ covid and it’s developing ‘immune escape’. How that affects ivermectin I dunno, maybe it doesn’t matter and that’d be great, but i hope folks don’t close windows, either. Like ivermectin, monoclonals have use-by window, too. This is definitely a do not mess around and put things off virus.


62 posted on 08/06/2021 11:35:43 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: Gunslingr3
I used to write computer programs that did reports for administrators.

They liked to "massage" the program reports.

When you see a number over 90 percent supporting "their view", it's a load of pony poop.

Capiche?

63 posted on 08/06/2021 11:36:28 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Whatever Works

How new? Did she go though peak covid in an stressed ICU (some were, some weren’t) @ maximum hours?* For how long?

*Seems very unlikely if she’s now being offered “more hours”.

A few “newly minted” people can take the worst of that and come out shining. God Bless your daughter if she can / did! Most can’t.


64 posted on 08/06/2021 11:55:01 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: max americana

Many years ago I was a new nursing assistant in a nameless San diego hospital assigned to the ortho floor, the head nurse a women in her late 50S took an interest in my training. Long story short, she didn’t suffer the new RNs as they were wet behind the ears... a wonderful women new more about nursing then the bosses above her.


65 posted on 08/06/2021 11:59:27 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Gene Eric

I seriously feel uncomfortable responding to this specific example but here’s the guidance on monoclonals that medical staff have to follow. monoclonals have a tight window. If the parameters aren’t met, i.e., progresssed to severe, then in-hospital treatments are probably best:

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/Monoclonal-Antibody-Treatment-Information-for-Providers-and-Facilities.aspx

“Given the sustained increase in variants resistant to bamlanivimab alone and bamlanivimab/etesevimab, the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response (ASPR) within the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) stopped the distribution of both products to California.

The FDA recommends that health care providers in California instead use casirivimab plus imdevimab (i.e., REGEN-COV) therapy until further notice.”

“Monoclonal antibody treatments are not authorized for use in patients who are hospitalized due to COVID-19 OR who require oxygen therapy due to COVID-19 OR who require an increase in baseline oxygen flow rate due to COVID-19 in those on chronic oxygen therapy due to underlying non-COVID-19 related morbidity.”

Can a patient who is asymptomatic receive this treatment?
No
Can a patient without positive results from direct SARS-CoV-2 viral testing receive this treatment?
No
Can a patient who is hospitalized due to COVID-19 receive this treatment?
No
Can a patient requiring oxygen therapy due to COVID-19 receive this treatment?
No


66 posted on 08/07/2021 12:02:10 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: Whatever Works

first, congrats on being a great parent and second best wishes!! to your daughter. She sounds like someone born to nurse who answered the calling and she will do well, especially being able to add ICU skillsets to her resume at such an early stage in her career. :) With your shoulder to lean on, she’ll be just fine.


67 posted on 08/07/2021 12:12:17 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: kiryandil

Very easy to shape data.


68 posted on 08/07/2021 12:14:12 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: blueplum

Actually the criteria have changed in the last week. It can be given as post exposure prophylaxis for anyone not vaccinated or at high risk of not mounting a sufficient immune response to the vaccine (immune suppressants, age, etc) with a known exposure prior to developing illness. For those with ongoing exposure (nursing homes, prison etc) it can be repeatedly monthly for as long as documented exposure continues. This is in addition to existing parameters Use in patients with severe disease has been found to be not beneficial and possibly harmful. For those with severe disease a drug called tociluzimab now has an EUA.


69 posted on 08/07/2021 12:16:14 AM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: Gene Eric
Very easy to shape data.

Once I realized there was money involved, I haven't wasted one minute reading Covid death/illness reports.

70 posted on 08/07/2021 12:20:59 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Paul R.

“Veteran of the Psychic Wars”!

LOLL!!


71 posted on 08/07/2021 12:26:05 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: kiryandil

Orangeman bad. REEEEEEEEEEEE


72 posted on 08/07/2021 12:40:07 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: Mom MD

good to know they opened it up to known and ongoing exposure. Thanks.

I’d bet you already know about “Olumiant” baricitinib but I’ll put the link to a recent article up here for everyone. No clue how it compares to “Actemra” tociluzimab, or if “9 doctors out of 10 recommend...”:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9855843/Lillys-COVID-19-drug-reduces-death-risk-patients-mechanical-ventilation.html


73 posted on 08/07/2021 12:42:05 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum

Hopefully we get an eua soon. The eua for tociluzimab has been expanded as well and can now be used outside the ICU for folks with worsening respiratory status. Looks like so far this one has only been studied with mechanical ventilation or ECMO


74 posted on 08/07/2021 12:46:35 AM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: kiryandil

Yup.


75 posted on 08/07/2021 1:02:48 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Mom MD
Let one of the armchair experts here take just one shift in a covid ICU. They wouldn’t last one hour let alone 12.

17 years working in a major metro hospital makes me agree that working the ICU sucks. I only did IT support, and I can tell you that. Your statement, though, belies your efforts to push the COVID narrative, though. It ignores the fact that these stories DO all sound the same, and have propaganda written all over them.

In all seriousness, it's hard to follow all the back and forth on this, so I am asking out of a position of honestly not knowing. Do you advocate the lower cost prophylactics and early treatments as part of the response regime, or are you in the camp that only the Poke and ventilators are the answer?

76 posted on 08/07/2021 2:10:43 AM PDT by Turbo Pig ('to close with and destroy the enemy")
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To: blueplum

ICU Nurse is a tough job
Mangled bodies from motorcycle and auto accidents used to fill the beds
Guys from work accidents were in ICU beds.

Those folks either died or their life options changed forever


77 posted on 08/07/2021 4:33:44 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: one guy in new jersey

Truth
All those ICU workers should have been dead long ago.They were saved by the fact Covid does not kill folks with decent immune systems


78 posted on 08/07/2021 4:36:21 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: bray

Go here

http://worldpharm24.com/categories/Antibiotics/Stromectol

Stromectol is Ivermectin


79 posted on 08/07/2021 4:37:06 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: blueplum

Well if they’d only do the preventative treatment or initial symptom treatment, this would have been done and gone within a month


80 posted on 08/07/2021 4:45:57 AM PDT by Conservative4Life (But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death:Proverbs 8:36)
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