Addressing The "Concern" Posted On Free Republic That Deaths Following Covid-19 "Vaccination" And Published To VAERS Are COINCIDENTAL And Not Useful Indicators of Safety

5/24/2021 | vanity

[gas_dr]

Ahhh I see you have taken the position of supervising my schedule from someone else. Your rudeness and incomprehensibly inarticulate arguments don’t speak to anything factual rather are attacks simply because you have nothing else.

I look forward to the time when you add to the conversation however this hardly seems worthy of the bandwidth you used to make the attack

Beside, educating such a substandard position is hardly all that difficult.

[ransomnote]

They haven’t the slightest idea of the damage caused by the “vaccine”. Shots are being given in supermarkets, drug stores, street corners, etc. and there is no way that any follow up is being done. Those done in hospitals or by doctors may or may not have follow up depending if they have a doctor/patient (primary care physician) relationship and record access.
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Yes. By design they do not know. This is not the CDC’s first supped ‘epidemic’ (e.g., H1n1 and SARS) nor is it their first vaccine (VAERs vaccine database is 31 years old).

If they wanted to know, they would have developed the means to do so. They had a year before the Covid ‘vaccines’ were released to improve reporting, but they don’t want to.

“Shots are being given in supermarkets, drug stores, street corners, etc. and there is no way that any follow up is being done. “

Yes, and I think it’s horrific that, given the number of people who need an ER following vaccination, they shouldn’t vaccinate where trained medical staff are not available.

One report detailed her daughter apparently blacking out in her car while in a ‘drive up’ clinic and the staff didn’t notice for awhile, even when she regained consciousness and was flashing her car emergency lights (several lanes of parked cars for them to monitor).

There’s a video of many people seated in socially distanced chairs in a large auditorium, and we see one person fall out of their chair (possible head injury from fall?) and have a seizure. I’ve seen a gif of a man having a seizure in his car parked in one of those multi-lane vax locations in a parking lot.

“Those done in hospitals or by doctors may or may not have follow up depending if they have a doctor/patient (primary care physician) relationship and record access.”

While the doctor may follow up medically, they usually don’t update the record. I wonder how many die at home after the doctor ceases follow up or initial ER interaction?
That would mean the family would have to know the doctor filed in the first place and to update the record. If they tried to report the death themselves I imagine they would find a person that age with that name already had been reported to VAERS and I don’t know if they can update someone else’s report.

[roving]

There have been plenty of doctors covering their concerns

[palmer]

Thanks for posting the numbers and analyis.

based on a Harvard study which found only about 1% of actual events are ever reported to the CDC,

That was then, and probably doesn't apply to the current vaccination campaign. This time everyone gets the sheet of paper with the VAERS hotline and VAERS website. You can see from reading the reports on the website that people have read the paper and are dutifully reporting their sore arm or fever.

For the shots that the Harvard study is based on, lots of people get them at the doctor and collect the paperwork at the end. They don't just go for one shot. Few people read the paper about VAERS for routine shots. With these shots there is awareness of vaccine novelty and adverse effects (e.g. as reported by people on Facebook). That naturally leads to more reporting.

So while I agree that VAERS is an undercount, there are already overcounts in VAERS itself.

There are many reports like this: "This is a 93 year old with significant heart issues?EF of 20% among other comorbidities. He died suddenly approximately 0430, it is unlikely it was related to receiving the vaccine"

or "Pt on hospice in facility for severe cardiomyopathy unable to perform interventions received vaccine without adverse sequelae died 5 days later. Reporting as required. Narrative: Reporting as required patient death 5 days after immunization with Pfizer vaccine. However, no adverse sequelae were noted to the vaccine in the 15minute observation period, nor in the days following the immunization related to the vaccine...."

Those all have to be factored out or removed from the equation.

[bagster]

All evidence thus far points to President Trump being right about this as well.

You're absolutely right. But only if you ignore the about 8 million articles posted on Free Republic alone to the contrary.

And since your world consists of only listening to a select and politically correct slice of the truth, then of course you would believe that.

Others of us, however, are open to ALL opinions and information. Which is why we smarts have come to the conclusion that YOU and your derpish ilk are ABSOLUTELY wrong.

I have also personally come to the conclusion that YOU are lying. Either ignorantly or purposefully, and I'm leaning more toward purposefully.

You tie me to Farrakhan? I tie you to Fauci, Gates, Pelosi, Biden, Hillary, and every other rat pushing the vax, including the heathen Chinee perpetrators of this hoax.

How you like THEM apples?

[roving]

The higher death rate coup KS have been from heath care places begging shut down, people not getting their treatments, and no screening’s for high blood pressure among other things

[palmer]

The death rate from this virus is .002%.

0.2%

[roving]

Stupid phone... People couldn’t get screening’s for heath problems or have heath problems taken care of because everything was shut down. There is your extra deaths

[heavy metal]

asking you why you have so much time to post on these threads when you have all these covid patients to treat isn’t supervising your schedule...

it’s questioning your authenticity...

[palmer]

The death rate from this virus is .002%.

0.2%

[Kickass Conservative]

I am getting my second Dose of the Moderna Vaccine this Wednesday. I had no side effects from the first one.

I have Leukemia and consulted my Oncologist before getting it. He was more concerned what would happen if I contracted the Kung Flu than any bad reaction to the Vaccine.

I was on the fence on whether to go ahead and get it for a few Months while everyone in my circle of Family and Friends got the Vaccine. Ultimately, my Oncologist made the call.

That being said, if you don’t want the Vaccine, don’t get it. This agree to get the Vaccine with a Gun pointed at your Head stuff is getting really absurd.

It’s the frigging Godfather Movie come to life.

[gas_dr]

Question away. It really is irrelevant to me. I know exactly what I do as do my colleagues. Somehow your inability to make an argument and to attack are simply Alinsky tactics. Nothing more. You have learned very well how to act like a radical.

Unless you have actually something to offer I see no point in further responding.

Have a good evening snd bless your heart.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

"You're absolutely right. But only if you ignore the about 8 million articles posted on Free Republic alone to the contrary."

Posting nonsense 8 million times doesn't make it less nonsensical; it just makes it spammy nonsense.

But hey, if you think you're right and President Trump is wrong, then by all means stand up and say so loudly, proudly, and often. Pride cometh before the fall.

[NetAddicted]

READ LATER.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

Stop posting to me.

[ransomnote]

Every death in the United States is subject to a medical investigation to determine the cause of death.

Another baseless assertion from you.

A Covid Death? The Bureaucracy Decides (freerepublic.com)

Thus far, there are zero deaths where anyone has stated that a COVID-19 vaccine was the cause of a person’s death or contributed to the person’s death anywhere in the United States.

This is false. I've seen reports in VAERS in which the physician states their medical opinion that the vaccine caused the death. I've also seen reports from family members saying their family doctor linked the death/stroke/heart attack/anaphylaxis/paralysis to the the vaccine.

Lastly, the CDC rubberstamped it's 'investigation' into deaths reported to VAERS. For the first time, they used unnamed, untrained FDA regulatory physicians to spend a tiny fraction of the time needed to review the available data before declaring ZERO deaths from Covid-19. Even people who had overwhelming anaphylaxis upon injection were not considered related. [Information taken from Dr. McCulloughs highly experienced insights recorded in the following thread.]

COVID Vaccine Killing Huge Numbers, Warns Leading Doctor – Liberty Sentinel [32 minute video]

Meanwhile, the vaccines are saving lives.

Covid is about 99.8% survivable and Dr. McCullough, Dr. Zelenko and others have all created treatment protocols which reduce cause of death among the most vulnerable by 85%

The vaccines are killing and maiming far more than they are helping.

No amount of anti-vaccine hysteria can change that.

I'm not hysterical. You are. 

I cited researchers who are not hysterical.

No amount of wild and crazy claims about a million dead bodies (which don’t exist) can change that.

I didn't say anything about a million dead bodies - you made that up.

But of course, if the vaccines don’t cure death - regardless of cause - then they must be worthless in the eyes of anti-vaccine extremists.

Vaccines are supposed to prevent death, not cause it.

The CDC has rewritten their website definition for 'vaccine' because the Covid-19 'shots' didn't meet the definition.

Why are 85% success rates for the most elderly/most comorbidities ignored?

Why were these treatments withheld from dying patients? I know the answer -withholding meds was done to meet the FDA criteria for an EUA given the 'vaccines' (i.e., no other treatments could exist if they wanted to use the experimental product on the public).

The so-called 'efficacy rates' of the vaccines is exaggerated, because they applied to only a 2 month span of testing. When people become ill after the trials, and they have in large numbers (I think it was 900 persons), the efficacy rates are proven to be lies like everything else we've been told.

Save the viruses! Won’t somebody think of the poor viruses?!

As I said, you are the one who is hysterical.

[palmer]

If this were true, and it isn't remotely, then approximately one person in five would have experienced an adverse event. (50,000,000 events, 260,000,000 doses administered).

There are 1000's of reports of headache and fever. Probably 10,000 of those with one or two other symptoms. All of which is not unexpected for those vaccines.

[heavy metal]

you never had anything to offer except government propaganda...

you can’t even prove you’re really a doctor...

bless your heart...

[bagster]

So while I agree that VAERS is an undercount...

Well, look at that Ransomnote.

Baby steps, I guess.

[gas_dr]

Wow. Original as well

Stop posting to me