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Deutsche Bank: 'The value of bitcoin is entirely based on wishful thinking'
Yahoo ^ | 20 May 2021 | Ethan Wolff-Mann

Posted on 05/20/2021 3:53:55 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

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To: DUMBGRUNT

Bitcoin is roughly where it was in February, its highly volatile right now because its price shot up dramatically since the November elections.


21 posted on 05/20/2021 4:18:20 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Renfrew

You cant create gold out of thin air. Dollars have a political body controlling the supply ( not doing a good job at but still ). Bit coin???


22 posted on 05/20/2021 4:18:30 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: T.B. Yoits

Governments at some point will simply outlaw their use if cryptocurrencies threaten the US dollar. If not outlaw them, they’ll adopt some form of regulated use. It’s already started.


23 posted on 05/20/2021 4:19:10 PM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz )
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To: Renfrew

> That’s true, but so is the value of a dollar, a Picasso, or a bar of gold. <

At least with a Picasso you can decorate your living room. And you can make some pretty nice jewelry with a bar of gold. The same goes with a bag of beans or a box of bullets. Those things have real-life value.

But yeah, a dollar bill and a bitcoin are pretty much hollow. They are only worth (as you said) what the next guy is willing to exchange for it.


24 posted on 05/20/2021 4:19:13 PM PDT by Leaning Right (iI have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Vermont Lt

And no disagreement about the old cui bono question.


25 posted on 05/20/2021 4:19:55 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: Fungi

Ah very true. The value of ourselves to ourselves is infinite. The value the rest of humanity places on us is considerably lower.


26 posted on 05/20/2021 4:22:32 PM PDT by Renfrew
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To: phoneman08
Governments at some point will simply outlaw their use if cryptocurrencies threaten the US dollar. If not outlaw them, they’ll adopt some form of regulated use. It’s already started.

Governments fear cryptocurrencies because they can peg just how far off their fiat currencies are. They also oppose commoners using cryptocurrencies because the Globalists don't welcome cryptocurrency users to the game that these Globalists have been running for decades.

27 posted on 05/20/2021 4:23:01 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: central_va
Who or what entity controls the supply of bit coin? Who controls their “manufacture”.

When you "invest" in a fiat currency, willingly or unwillingly, you're holding money with serial numbers. The money printers promise you that they're difficult to counterfeit so you don't have to worry about duplicate serial numbers. (Yet they're counterfeited all the time, mostly by hostile nations but also by the issuing nation when sending billions to foreign terrorists such as Iran).

The money printers do NOT ensure they won't print more money with new serial numbers that devalues your fiat money. In fact, they're printing more all the time. The value of your fiat money is what the printers say it is by adding or removing some from circulation.

Cryptocurrencies on the other hand promise you a distinct serial number that's difficult to counterfeit since each transaction tracks the serial number (unlike transactions with bills). Cryptocurrencies offer a fixed number of digital "coins" or at least a schedule of how long it takes to "mine" new ones and how many might be added. The market then determines the value of each "coin".

28 posted on 05/20/2021 4:24:39 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Renfrew

Yep, all value is extrinsic.


29 posted on 05/20/2021 4:24:47 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: central_va

There is no central authority for Bitcoin. There is no “President” of Bitcoin. You are able to hook a “mining rig” up to the internet and compete for new “coins” against the rest of the world.


30 posted on 05/20/2021 4:25:10 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (. )
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To: central_va
You cant create gold out of thin air. Dollars have a political body controlling the supply ( not doing a good job at but still ). Bit coin???

You can't create a Bitcoin out of thin air. It cost quite a bit in hardware investment and consumption of electricity to produce one.

31 posted on 05/20/2021 4:25:20 PM PDT by Database
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To: T.B. Yoits

For sure.

I really wish I had invested early in the game. I was too timid then, but don’t dare go anywhere near them now. Then again, maybe I’m making the same mistake all over again lol.


32 posted on 05/20/2021 4:28:17 PM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz )
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To: central_va

Bitcoin mining is based on a reward system for computing/puzzle solving algorithmic ledger information block-chains based on computer processing power. (I’m oversimplifying this down a lot)

Basically at this point it takes a long time for a single computer or multiple ones to generate a single Bitcoin that is encrypted because the rewards are becoming scarce now.

That’s sort of why its said to be digital gold because it is impossible to flood the market with new bit coins. There is also a finite amount of Bitcoins that can be rewarded. After they are all mined out the entire market wont have anymore room without some new kind of computer I think.


33 posted on 05/20/2021 4:28:44 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Point out to me which of the currencies of the big 20 are not based on wishful thinking. It is hard to imagine that food is traded for numbers on a computer screen.


34 posted on 05/20/2021 4:34:47 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: Database

“You can’t create a Bitcoin out of thin air. “

That’s true, but you can create an entire new crypto currency out of nothing, which is the main complication these days.


35 posted on 05/20/2021 4:38:10 PM PDT by Renfrew
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To: DUMBGRUNT

You know it’s bad when even the Chinese have abandoned Bitcoin.


36 posted on 05/20/2021 4:48:23 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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To: jpl

The dollar doesn’t go up by 9x in one year then down by 40% in one week.


37 posted on 05/20/2021 4:50:21 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: jpl

The dollar has had no gyrations that begin to compare to Bitcoin.

And you and every one of us uses it every day, every week, every month, every year.

Not to mention that govts worldwide are about to start putting all Cryptos under their control.


38 posted on 05/20/2021 4:52:13 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Any comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The two biggest forms of theft are Taxes and Inflation. Hence, Bitcoin


39 posted on 05/20/2021 4:56:57 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: T.B. Yoits
since each transaction tracks the serial number

But bitcoin is constantly being manufactured. There are an infinite number of bitcoin serial numbers

40 posted on 05/20/2021 5:05:57 PM PDT by FatherofFive (We support Trump. Not the GOP)
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