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More breakthrough COVID-19 cases reported among vaccinated people in Washington
King 5 ^ | April 14, 2021 | King 5 Staff

Posted on 04/14/2021 2:36:49 PM PDT by Cathi

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To: Pearls Before Swine

exactly


21 posted on 04/14/2021 3:02:01 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Flick Lives

At least the flu is a real virus
Not one vaccine maker has an actual sample of this virus
Ever heard of that
No live virus

All the attempted vax are based on modeling


22 posted on 04/14/2021 3:02:48 PM PDT by silverleaf (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: beethovenfan

This happens when the “authorities” run low on the actual vaccine and start injecting saline. Of course, even with injections of the real vaccine, there is only a “95%” efficacy rate, these unfortunates were in the unlucky 5%.

Perhaps more should be applied to therapeutics and less to the prevention measures.


23 posted on 04/14/2021 3:05:48 PM PDT by alloysteel (¡Viva la Revolución! It worked for Castro....)
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To: taxcontrol
vaccines either “wear off” super fast or that the body does not remember very long.

...or we were never supposed to develop Coronavirus vaccines due to known problems with vaccine induced immunopathology...

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0035421
24 posted on 04/14/2021 3:06:59 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: taxcontrol
It is beginning to sound like the vaccines either “wear off” super fast or that the body does not remember very long.

Indeed. Why do you think they have to give 2 shots, and talk about booster shots? Some even suggesting every 6 months for a booster shot.

There is some data, not a lot but some out there, that show the first dose of the mRNA vaccines are about 90% effective but that it fades to the mid 60% range by week five. I suspect that is the reason for the second shot at week four. So it is reasonable, imo, to wonder if the 2nd shot doesn't fade out at some point - who knows when?

I also have no idea if the vaccines create lasting memory T-cell immunity for covid or the variants.

All that said, we're still talking about relatively small numbers. 200 people out of how many million(s) that got vaccinated in WA?

25 posted on 04/14/2021 3:09:43 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Truthoverpower

The Elites’ Plans Are Pure, Unalloyed Evil

Mike Yeadon is a soft-spoken microbiologist and a former Vice President of Allergy and Respiratory Research at Pfizer. He spent 32 years working for large pharmaceutical companies and is a leading expert on viral respiratory infections. He is also a man on a mission, and his mission is to inform as many people as possible about the elite powerbrokers that are using the pandemic as a smokescreen to conceal their real objectives. Here’s Yeadon in a recent interview:

“If you wanted to depopulate a significant portion of the world, and to do it in a way that wouldn’t require destruction of the environment with nuclear weapons, or poisoning everyone with anthrax or something, And you wanted plausible deniability, whilst you had a multi-year infectious disease crisis; I don’t think you could come up with a better plan of work than what seems to be in front of me. I can’t say that’s what they’re going to do, but I cannot think of a benign explanation for why they are doing it.” (”Interview with Dr Mike Yeadon”, The Delingpole Podcast; Minute 44: 25)


26 posted on 04/14/2021 3:11:28 PM PDT by saintgermaine (THE TIME TRAVELLER )
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To: silverleaf

I attribute the younger age group being infected now to that age group just recently being allowed to get the vaccines. Prior to that the majority were the elderly.

Some people misinterpreted the initial news on breakthrough cases. Most vaccinated and unvaccinated are not very frequently in contact with covid. Over a 15 month time period less than 10% of Americans tested positive.

The breakthrough cases will continue to rise as the vaccinated have more opportunity to come into contact with the virus.


27 posted on 04/14/2021 3:11:49 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: silverleaf

At least the flu is a real virus
Not one vaccine maker has an actual sample of this virus
Ever heard of that
No live virus

All the attempted vax are based on modeling

I’m not surprised. People have a hard time understanding just how small all corona viruses are. Viruses are small to begin with, but the corona family of virus are the smallest. We’re talking a structure composed of about only 100,000 atoms!

The elusive “cure for the common cold” is elusive because the common cold virus is another corona virus. Trying to build and antibody to detect and differentiate something smaller than the wavelength of light is difficult. Maybe not really possible with current technology.


28 posted on 04/14/2021 3:12:30 PM PDT by Flick Lives (“Today we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives.”)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Here’s what I wonder - assuming the vaccines do not stop a person from catching or spreading the virus, but they do a good job at preventing serious illness. Then it seems to me the concept is to mitigate, with the expectation that nearly everyone is going to catch it... only not get very sick from it.


29 posted on 04/14/2021 3:12:55 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Exactly! And four of the five deaths were long term care residents and all had co-morbidities.

This is just more media fear porn because they want everyone confused and divided.


30 posted on 04/14/2021 3:13:10 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
Many of us are not afraid of Covid-19, which is why we consider it unnecessary for us and our children to be vaccinated. That said, there is a research study from 2012 showing Coronavirus vaccines are not recommended because they result in vaccine induced immunopathology in test subjects making them MORE vulnerable to coronavirus. These deaths seem to confirm the 2012 study...

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0035421
31 posted on 04/14/2021 3:13:39 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Secret Agent Man

:-)


32 posted on 04/14/2021 3:14:18 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: P-Marlowe

on the contrary, we know a lot of things.

guessing and “Truth Nazis” are where everyone gets into trouble.


33 posted on 04/14/2021 3:14:35 PM PDT by algore
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To: monkeyshine

“There is some data, not a lot but some out there, that show the first dose of the mRNA vaccines are about 90% effective but that it fades to the mid 60% range by week five.”

Do you have a link to the data showing 60% effectiveness by week five?


34 posted on 04/14/2021 3:15:28 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: monkeyshine
Possibly. However the 2012 Coronavirus Vaccine study painted a grimmer picture...

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0035421
35 posted on 04/14/2021 3:16:05 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Cathi
The breakthrough cases will continue to rise as the vaccinated have more opportunity to come into contact with the virus.

I agree. But presumably there is no real need to test vaccinated people unless they develop symptoms severe enough to warrant a test. So who really knows what the real contagion is like when so many may be catching and spreading it but not showing any severe symptoms.

36 posted on 04/14/2021 3:16:11 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Magic Fingers

I can dig it up. It’s from a study out of Scotland if I recall. It was 35 days. But this only refers to the first shot. It does not include people who got 2 doses.

Also should be noted what we are actually measuring. They were measuring rates of hospitalization or death. So 90%+ reduction during the first 4-5 weeks, but reduction in hospitalization or death dropped to 60% range at day 35 among those who only got the first dose. It may have some biases e.g. who decides when to administer a patient to the hospital or when, vs sending them home for bed rest. So I am not wholly confident in these or any statistics related to covid.


37 posted on 04/14/2021 3:20:34 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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Why do we even need vaccines? Masks stop the virus, right? Follow the science!


38 posted on 04/14/2021 3:25:20 PM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (Socialism requires slavery.)
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To: taxcontrol

It’s being reported the Pfizer vax doesn’t work against the new African variant. Wonder if that variant has hit Washington?


39 posted on 04/14/2021 3:25:57 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Magic Fingers

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-data-calls-into-question-delaying-2nd-coronavirus-vaccine-dose-2021-2

The experiment used medical records covering 5.4 million people, or 99% of the Scottish population and focused on people who had received a single shot of either the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine or the AstraZeneca-Oxford vaccine, the only two shots authorized in the UK.

One dose helped protect against hospitalization, with effectiveness peaking about five weeks after immunization at 84% effective at preventing hospitalization.

But the follow-up data available beyond that time is where it gets concerning. Effectiveness peaked and then began to decline, going from 84% effective in the fifth week to 61% effective the following week and then 58% beyond then.

It’s unknown whether that trend would continue beyond that, as that’s all the data the researchers had available to crunch in the study. But the findings suggest that protection starts to wane from a single dose after five weeks or so.


40 posted on 04/14/2021 3:27:32 PM PDT by Cathi
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