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Banned From YouTube: Damning Video Details Tesla’s ‘Full Self Driving’ Claims Versus Reality
Nation and State ^ | 03/26/2021 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 03/26/2021 8:00:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: ClearCase_guy

Liability should be akin to letting someone else drive. You’re just letting the legal person Tesla do the driving, as they legally own the software (as is the case for most published software).

Tesla hired actuaries with job descriptions hinting at addressing/solving this problem.


21 posted on 03/26/2021 9:04:58 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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To: Truthoverpower

Nobody is forcing you to, so relax. Drive what you want.

I’ve had an electric car, it was very nice and I want another.

“Is a self driving car going to know how to react to black ice and driving in the snow?”

Yes, actually. Modern electric cars have excellent control on ice and snow. Self driving still has some challenges with heavy snow, but is doing surprisingly well and improving rapidly.


22 posted on 03/26/2021 9:08:57 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Saw this on Quora the other day:

Ok, now the biggest ones. Gonna stretch “big data” a bit but — the current investment wave in AI startups is going to have a really hard landing. Turns out that a lot of “AI startups” are just… using cheap labor behind an API:

The company claims its AI tools are “human-assisted,” and that it provides a service that will help a customer make more than 80 percent of a mobile app from scratch in about an hour, according to claims Engineer.ai founder Sachin Dev Duggal, who also says his other title is “Chief Wizard,” made onstage at a conference last year. However, the WSJ reports that Engineer.ai does not use AI to assemble the code, and instead uses human engineers in India and elsewhere to put together the app.
This report (link at source) suggests that 40% of “AI startups” in Europe actually use… no AI whatsoever:

“In 40 percent of cases we could find no mention of evidence of AI,” MMC head of research David Kelnar, who compiled the report, told Forbes. Kelnar says that this means “companies that people assume and think are AI companies are probably not.”

Tons of “AI-first” startups have raised millions upon millions of dollars using this untried-and-untrue business plan:

AI is going to come. But it’s going to come from research labs at Google / Deepmind or Baidu. Or maybe even some MIT research lab. But it’s not going to come from three dudes fresh out of Y Combinator, who split their time between fundraising, talking about AI, and fundraising again because they spent all their money on interns who get paid to pretend to be AIs.

But eh, I’m not going to cry for burnt VC capital. VCs should have known better, and sunk their money into hard, traditional research instead. Like blood testing. Can’t go wrong there.

Here's a link to the page this material was on: Who are some of the largest big-data frauds out there right now?
23 posted on 03/26/2021 9:30:23 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Nifster

More of those deaths are caused by inattentive drivers. Texting, talking on the handheld, makeup applyers, and the like.

Impaired driving has fallen from #1 to #3 cause of road deaths.

Every day, about 28 people in the United States die in drunk-driving crashes — that’s one person every 52 minutes. In 2019, these deaths reached the lowest percentage since 1982 when NHTSA started reporting alcohol data — but still 10,142 people lost their lives.


24 posted on 03/26/2021 9:45:25 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am not certain why people would want self-driving vehicles. Even if the technology could be perfected, what is the appeal of sitting in a vehicle staring out the window, when you could be actively engaged driving it? That would make car trips just about as unappealing as airplane trips, with the caveat that airplanes (at least for me) are unlikely to cause motion sickness if I do anything other than stare out the window.


25 posted on 03/26/2021 9:51:15 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: ctdonath2

Uber and Lyft provide that already


26 posted on 03/26/2021 11:32:55 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

But then you have to go back and get your car later, paying someone else to drive in the meantime.
Vs just get in own car, tap “take me home”, done.


27 posted on 03/26/2021 11:44:56 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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To: exDemMom

Driving 1000 miles to visit family is painfully boring, worse when driving overnight. I’d rather drive manually onto the freeway, engage auto-drive, and sleep for a few hours while traversing hundreds of miles of dark roads.


28 posted on 03/26/2021 11:47:35 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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To: Steely Tom

Interesting, but not relevant here. Tesla is in fact implementing a serious AI system a la Full Self Drive; it’s not a bunch of interns pretending to be computers. Exciting that it’s to the point of cars being able to mostly drive themselves under normal conditions at city & highway speeds.


29 posted on 03/26/2021 11:57:11 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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To: Alberta's Child

It’s called the stick shift! Which in fact, now is a security device! :-)


30 posted on 03/26/2021 12:15:23 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: ctdonath2

Unless it crashes as many teslas have


31 posted on 03/26/2021 2:40:23 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: dfwgator

I help build semiconductor products for the auto industry. The next generation of electronics is going to have military grade cryptographic security and nasa level safety up and down tie line...from break controllers to engine control.

I own a tesla model 3. I am also a purchaser of full self driving...so I am waiting for them to deliver on the promise. The thing about Tesla..they constantly improve the driver experience. Consider the sentry mode security..something added years after the model S first shipped. No other manufacturer has such a robust car physical security system...and this was a feature added at no additional cost to the fleet.

As for resistance to the vehicle being hacked. It has been done. Tesla was quick to release fixes to the fleet over the air..it will likely happen again..My original point was that the security of vehicles now being taken very seriously by the entire industry.


32 posted on 03/26/2021 7:17:38 PM PDT by fremont_steve
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