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Posted on 03/20/2021 12:15:54 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

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To: Eleutheria5

Ayn was a diversion for me in my teens and early twenties. With the Objectivists you always needed one more book purchase to fully understand and two seminars. I think the best explanation of her deficiencies was the book review of Atlas Shrugged written by Whittaker Chambers.

https://whittakerchambers.org/articles/nr/bigsister/


61 posted on 03/20/2021 4:26:38 PM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: Jane Long

We must reach Trump and bring this to his attention, if he isn’t already following it. And if he doesn’t bite, or especially if he does, there has to be some grass roots organizing and direct action.


62 posted on 03/20/2021 4:29:45 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("The impossible happens all they time. You just have to believe." Will Robinson)
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To: Eleutheria5

But it will be allowed to stand. It is illegal as hell. There is no Constitution to restrain the Governmental Agents from running amok. They have the guns. They have the badges. They have the will to kill when and if necessary when resisted. They will get her today and someone else tomorrow. And the sheep say while wearing their mask of submission, “Better her than me”.


63 posted on 03/20/2021 4:57:58 PM PDT by sport
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To: srmanuel

She got fooled, didn’t she?


64 posted on 03/20/2021 5:02:27 PM PDT by sport
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To: Eleutheria5

How do you propose we ‘reach Trump’ about this?

Look what happened to the last grass roots gathering.

Not saying people should stand down, by any means. Just that these evil leftists have attempted to ‘show a lesson’.


65 posted on 03/20/2021 5:03:42 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation πŸ™πŸ»πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ)
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To: sport

She got fooled, didn’t she?


I guess we all did.

Right?


66 posted on 03/20/2021 5:04:35 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation πŸ™πŸ»πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ)
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To: Jane Long

Amen!


67 posted on 03/20/2021 5:13:23 PM PDT by sport
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To: Reily

Thanks for the comments - I have not read any of the Rand bio’s, though I have picked up bits and pieces on her life in my readings.

I always admired her strong opposition to communism, which is especially noteworthy since so much of the intellectual heft among the early Bolsheviks came from secular Jews (who eventually fell out of favor as the Reds descended into totalitarianism). She was certainly perceptive enough to figure out that that particular “worker’s paradise” was a recipe for disaster, and no place for a woman of intelligence to prosper.

What always struck me odd about her was her almost mechanical approach to dealing with others - as if human interactions could be determined by a program, or shaped by a Skinner box. That’s even embodied in the term for her philosophy, ‘Objectivism’ - extended as if those with whom you interacted were just additional objects, only more complicated ones.

I was struck by the parallel between her relationship with Frank O’Cooner, and then Nathaniel Branden, and the “romantic” relationships of Dagney Taggert in “Atlas Shrugged” - as if it made perfect objective sense, once one had reached a certain point in a relationship, to just dump that relationship for a new one, kind of like you might just trade in a perfectly fine car for a new one, if you suddenly had the ability to do so.
Now I realize people divorce and remarry all the time, and I can understand doing so when insurmountable problems arise, but simply “trading up”, if it appears to be a rational alternative, comes across to me as a bit cold.

To the extent I’m able to employ a Judeo-Christian worldview to my behavior, it’s always seemed to me to provide at least the possibility of coming up with a reasonable balance between our concerns for ourselves (and loyalty to our loved ones), and our responsibilities to society as a whole. There’s plenty of room for debate on how one deals with the latter (or even if those are legitimate concerns); Rand is great at showing how the left is completely off-base in that venue, but then seems to conclude that *any* such concerns are essentially immoral. And that, I think, is what turns off most in the conservative camp (and many libertarians) when it comes to Rand.


68 posted on 03/20/2021 5:43:26 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: Stosh

She was also very totalitarian in her relationship to her “acolytes “. The old saying “You become what you hate if you hate it enough !” seems to be somewhat true in her case.

I see her as someone who learned much and was damaged much by her experiences. I take as a huge positive what she got right about collectivism and her deep perceptions of it. She’s a Russian Jew who lost everything, had it taken away from her by collectivism masquerading as this “superior form of reasoning”. She lost her home, her family, her culture and her nation. She came to the USA, it was her bright shining city on the hill - her psychological, intellectual & philosophical ideal. She rebuilt herself and her life with that ideal. She papered over her damaged psyche best she could but interpreted everything through this tortured Russian cultural lens. Her flaws were great but her insights were greater. She’s worth reading flaws warts & all.


69 posted on 03/20/2021 8:12:42 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Jane Long

I have no idea how to reach Trump, or Ted Nugent who might be down for this, or the guide du jour on EIB. I was hoping somebody would know. How to avoid provocateurs at grass roots gatherings is always a problem. It has always been a problem. It will always be a problem. Problems require solutions. You could pass a “color-of-the-day down a trusted pipeline a few hours before the demo. Or a password. But first set up a pipeline. We could call it the Keystone Pipeline (lol), and Joe Stolen will be powerless to shut it down. Troublemakers will have to be spotted and expelled from all activities, photographed and interrogated, and pics and whatever details obtained circulated down the Keystone).

I’m in Israel, with no prospects of getting to the US any time soon. But I’ve also committed to voicing my opinion on Rumble and You Tube and whatever other platforms I can get onto, for a minimum of three hours total in honor of Rush. Everyone can do this, and multiply the MAGA presence in cyberspace. I tend towards the philosophical, but today I’ll broadcast a call to action.

If anyone can get ahold of some high profile people, such as Donald Trump or Ted Nugent, please do so or communicate how to do so.


70 posted on 03/21/2021 2:33:04 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("The impossible happens all they time. You just have to believe." Will Robinson)
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To: sport

OK. So be the first to surrender, then. Start diming people out. You might get paid. It could well go that way. If good men stand by and do nothing, evil will triumph. But the fact that evil has not always triumphed, and sometimes good has prevailed, suggests to me that “it” MIGHT be prevented from standing, but to do that, we’ve got to put our heads together and come up with a doable plan of action. See my tag line. Don’t go Dr. Smith on us.


71 posted on 03/21/2021 2:39:11 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("The impossible happens all they time. You just have to believe." Will Robinson)
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To: Jane Long

For those desiring my e-mail, please contact me privately, and in my first e-mail to you, I’ll convey my whatsapp. Maybe I should be in the loop. Maybe not. You decide. But let’s do this thing, away from prying eyes and skeptics.


72 posted on 03/21/2021 5:18:55 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("The impossible happens all they time. You just have to believe." Will Robinson)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Update: Marlena’s supporters rally at her restaurant

https://www.hollandsentinel.com/story/news/local/2021/03/20/marlenas-supporters-rally-her-restaurant-saturday/4786899001/

Supporters board up Holland restaurant trying to free Marlena Pavelos-Hackney from jail

https://wwmt.com/news/local/supporters-board-up-holland-restaurant-and-try-to-free-marlena-pavelos-hackney-from-jail


73 posted on 03/21/2021 11:34:17 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("The impossible happens all they time. You just have to believe." Will Robinson)
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