Revised chart with key at the bottom and link from Drago that he posted at #43:
https://lozierinstitute.org/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-covid-19-vaccine/
Posted on 02/16/2021 9:04:11 PM PST by hapnHal
They’re still used.
At the judgment it will be revealed.
Why use ANY at all? Still wrong, IMHO!
It violates the principle of the integral good.
Its an old Question.
Aquinas answered it in 1485.
First Part, Question 48 Article 4
Does evil totally corrupt good?
https://www.newadvent.org/summa/1048.htm
Define “experiment”, he didn’t.
One child was the source, but how many others were “experimented” on before this monster got it right?
292 “experiments” were performed before this successful harvest of living cells from a living kidney from a defenseless living child.
What were they? How do you know that they were not other aborted children? You don’t.
You’re wrong in your understanding.
293 does not refer to 293rd aborted tissue.
It was the 293rd experiment. How do you know that all 293 experiments were performed on one child? You don’t.
All you know is that the 293rd experiment was successful. That is all you know.
Ok, I stand corrected. There were not 293 abortions of fetuses, more like HUNDREDS, See below:
“There are a number of fetal cell lines in existence right now. There’s WI-38, MRC-5, HEK-293, PER C-6, and WALVAX-2; WALVAX-2 is not currently being used in any vaccines, but does have the potential to be used and is currently used in therapeutic treatments. As Acker and I agreed, most people have this understanding that it was one or two babies that died and will simply dismiss these cell lines.
Acker speaks about her research into the HEK-293 cell line specifically, and talks about the number that’s at the end of that cell line name. “HEK” stands for Human Embryonic Kidney and the “293” actually reveals the number of experiments that a specific researcher did to develop that cell line.
“It doesn’t mean there were two hundred and ninety-three abortions, but for two hundred and ninety-three experiments, you would certainly need far more than one abortion. We’re talking probably hundreds of abortions,” Acker shares.”
And what is this BS about “bearing false witness”, is that your attempt to reacquire some moral high ground?
There will be hell to pay for anyone involved in this gruesome business, eternal death, the second death as St Augustine puts it.
Yet you are worried about my precision and claiming it is not only false but also a lie? Look in the mirror dude.
Since I don’t know what Dr. Frankenstein means by “experiment”, not that I do not know what an experiment is but he did not define what he meant by it, I am still correct that dozens and dozens of innocent children were slaughtered to get to that one boy/girl who yielded living immortal cells.
““It doesn’t mean there were two hundred and ninety-three abortions, but for two hundred and ninety-three experiments, you would certainly need far more than one abortion. We’re talking probably hundreds of abortions,” Acker shares.””
Acker is incorrect regarding HEK293.
Tissue from the human embryonic kidney (HEK) (from the girl who was aborted) provides every thing needed.
293 does not refer to “experiment number”. Most likely it refers to a test tube (or equivalent) number corresponding to initial clonal selection.
A very small amount of her liver is all that necessary. Not all of it. Not hundreds of livers from abortions.
Other fetal derived cell lines I assume are from other fetal tissue, presumably from elective abortion, not spontaneous (i.e. miscarriage).
“And what is this BS about “bearing false witness”
It’s from the Word of God. Also called The Bible.
Look in to it.
It’s not BS.
Ive always heard that Democrats bathe in the blood of aborted babies while blaspheming God?
Dude, you’re making stuff up. Watch the video below and then realize that if you believe in the Word of God you would not be defending or minimizing the death and destruction that went into HEK-293.
Pamela Acker is not your equal on this topic. Sorry.
In the trash? Are you kidding? These cells had to be harvested within 5 minutes of the death of the child. Watch the video below, and please do not vomit when you get to the 21 minute mark...but do listen to what Pamela Acker has to say.
Quit telling fables about what went on with the development of HEK-293.
“Dude, you’re making stuff up.”
I state the Bible is The Word of God and you respond with the above.
I am not making that up.
“Watch the video below and then realize that if you believe in the Word of God you would not be defending or minimizing the death and destruction that went into HEK-293.”
I have not defended or minimized the death of the girl that went in to the ultimate creation of HEK293.
Please read everything I have written and show any example of that. If you can I would appreciate that.
I do not know Pamela Acker and cannot take second hand info to have any comment on her, so I thank you for a direct source, if that is what you have linked.
“I am still correct that dozens and dozens of innocent children were slaughtered to get to that one boy/girl who yielded ...”
Re HEK293 you are incorrect.
Why are you so obsessed with it being “dozens and dozens” or hundreds?
Isn’t one bad enough?
https://lozierinstitute.org/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-covid-19-vaccine/
I’m not obsessed, I just happen to read what the experts are saying. You, on the other hand, comment on multiple threads without ever having read the content or watch any of the videos. It’s your problem not mine.
The basic fact that seems to elude you is that there are multiple fetal cell lines, and each one of those lines required multiple attempts at harvesting. As Pamela Acker said, and you didn’t take the time to listen, the 293 “experiments” required to extract HEK-293 implies that dozens and dozens of children were put under the knife to get that one success, the previous 292 “experiments” resulting in failure.
You are right, even one child sacrificed is horrific enough, because the method involved extracting the child through Caesarian Section, cutting into his/her abdomen with no anaesthesia, and harvesting the kidney whilst the child’s heart was still pumping. As Pamela Acker put it, it is not unlike the Aztec method of pulling the beating heart out of a living person.
“As Pamela Acker said, and you didn’t take the time to listen, the 293 “experiments” required to extract HEK-293 implies that dozens and dozens of children were put under the knife to get that one success, the previous 292 “experiments” resulting in failure.”
This is simply wrong. HEK 293 was derived from one abortion.
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