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VANITY, for open discussion: "Define your terms, please" - Conservative and Liberal
Vanity ^ | 01-22-2021 | Vanity

Posted on 01/22/2021 6:18:11 AM PST by OKSooner

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To: OKSooner

Conservatives .
Humans have individual dignity and the ability to think for theirselves and make decisions for theirselves .
We will make individual decisions to better our lives and will live with our decisions for better or worse .
Liberals . People are not sophisticated enough to make their own decisions . They need a strong government presence to be taken care of and protected from their own ignorance .


21 posted on 01/22/2021 7:28:09 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clintons)
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To: OKSooner

There is no “classical” version.

“Conservative” is completely a relative term. Relative to what is normal, either in time or place.

Conservatives of the US today want to CONSERVE what makes the USA the USA.

Liberal simply means NOT conservative. Upsetting the order.


22 posted on 01/22/2021 7:30:39 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: lucky american

You misunderstand. “Progressive” is a double entendre.

The original “progressives” developed the term specifically meaning GRADUAL, not “advanced”. However, it was great because people first assume they want to “advance” and get better.

As usual with commies, they were deceptive and duplicitous in using words.


23 posted on 01/22/2021 7:37:35 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: babble-on

Yes, and they conflate progress with change.

Most people inherently do. Look at the obsession with “technology”. Almost any new invention now is seen as progress. Sometimes successful, but inevitably overtaken by yet another. Sometimes look back and realize that last touted thing wasn’t so great after all, as they tout the next one.

Quote attributed to Lincoln: “People see as progress, what is nothing more than change.”


24 posted on 01/22/2021 7:43:23 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: OKSooner

Control Freaks (and their fearful enablers)
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Freedom Lovers

All else is shiney wrappers.

Note: plenty of Control Freaks on both sides of “liberals” and “conservatives.” Always ask, “Will this (action or person) increase or decrease personal freedom?”

(Note: Control Freaks are the leaders, but fearful people make up 95% of thier base. I count the “You’ll burn in hell!” people on the Control Freak side. Flame (get it?) away.)


25 posted on 01/22/2021 10:05:06 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now!)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Also:

Freedom Lovers depend on the support (votes, $) from other Freedom Lovers. But us FLs are notoriously difficult to organize, which is why you don’t see FL marches. Until Trump. Which is a major reason why they fear him so. Previous FL organization effort (TEA Party, Proud Boys, Turning Point, etc) always got blown up by Control Freaks, as they knew an organized group of FLs could kill their entire marxist scheme.

Control Freaks just have to keep a big group scared, to get and keep power. That is much, much easier.

So we must stay with the Trump Movement, and I advocate a new party of that. They can’t blow it up—they’ve tried for 5 years. But they will try to assimilate them into the R party, where the movement will die. And if that doesn’t work, they’ll arrest us.


26 posted on 01/22/2021 10:25:30 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now!)
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To: Red Badger

You posted EXACTLY what I was going to. ;-Þ


27 posted on 01/22/2021 11:19:07 AM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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