Horowitz: CDC study: 85% of COVID-19 cases in July were people who often or always wear masks

https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-cdc-study-covid-masks ^

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I can do you one better:

Two kids in college. One lives in a dorm room with another student. Her roomate got sick, was originally diagnosed with strep, then subsequently tested and told she was positive for COVID. My daughter spent more than 48 hours living in the same 14'x11' room with the "infected" roomate, was forced into quarantine in a hotel, then tested negative for COVID.

Son lives in an apartment with three other students at his college. All three roomates test positive for COVID. Son lived with them in that apartment for close to a WEEK while they were all allegedly sick with COVID. He got tested. Negative for COVID.

Oh yeah, it's just so damned contagious and deadly, isn't it? The masks are not only useless, they are completely unnecessary.

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Pharmacist from India was lecturing me that I needed to keep the mask over my nose so the virus would not get in.

That's funny. We were told repeatedly that the mask isn't to protect YOU from the virus, it is to protect OTHERS from getting it from you.

Nothing but stupidity everywhere you look.

[Buckeye McFrog]

There is a Reason doctors and nurses have worn masks for the last 100 years.

To prevent blood, body fluids and spittle from going into their mouth and nose. When they first started wearing them it was not well understood even if they would stop bacteria.

There is a reason construction workers wear masks when dealing with sanding, etc.

To avoid inhaling particulate matter (i.e. dust and sand).

The particulates, fluid droplets and bacteria are ALL infinitely larger than a coronavirus. You wanna stop those your mask had better be N95 or higher.

[spudville]

I have zero problem with people who want to wear a mask. The minute they feel the need to ask me to wear one I tell them I am not sick.

[Buckeye McFrog]

About this time next year, when armed robberies are up 278%, will be the time to object to other people wearing masks.

[spacewarp]

When he spent $3 million lobbying to get oil drilling in the Gulf stopped, (and contacted Obama directly) he managed to “rent” all the rigs that were idled while the decision went through the courts for about $100 million and then managed to get them to the coast of Venezuela and made a clean $19 billion off it. What did he do with that? He wrote a check for $19 billion for the Tides Foundation. What we are dealing with right now is literally money he directly stole from American pockets and is pouring into his goal of the overthrow of America.

[spacewarp]

Masks cause the wearers to have a false sense of safety. Studies have shown that mask wearers on average touch their faces 4 times more than non-mask wearers. Since we know it’s passed via entry into vulnerable areas (such as the tear ducts and nasal passages) it stands to reason most mask wearers will catch it.

The insanity of this whole thing is that we knew all this going into this induced panic. Yet, they still made it happen.

[Okeydoker]

It says that I am skeptical of “ surveys” on highly ideological political subjects.

[dirtymac]

and with a 30% false positive rate and a 30% false negative rate you cannot say for certain that anyone had CV-19 or did not have CV-19 or that your children did not get it.

The whole thing has be hyperbolic bull sh*t since the start. The democrats have doing their level best to continue sell this crap. Advertisements on TV-Lies and false reporting.

[MayflowerMadam]

There is a reason Christians don’t have to live in fear.

[daniel1212]

and with a 30% false positive rate and a 30% false negative rate you cannot say for certain that anyone had CV-19 or did not have CV-19 or that your children did not get it.

Also,

Testing data compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada showed that to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus using the PCR test, which is the most widely used diagnostic test for the coronavirus. And which which means they are not likely to be infectious and thus need not be quarantined (the greater the viral load, the more likely an infected person is to be contagious).[https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html]

Pediatrician says 80% of kids likely have coronavirus, but they're so asymptomatic you'd never know - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-children-pediatrician-80-percent-asymptomatic/

Eighty percent of communicable diseases are transferred by touch, so practicing hand hygiene would understandably be important to help fight disease. - https://www.trinityhealth.org/the-keys-to-fighting-covid-19/

SEATTLE — A new, preliminary study from the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle says the novel coronavirus is most likely transferred through “super-spreader” events, and that 80% of those who test positive for the virus never infect anyone else. - https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/fred-hutchinson-cancer-research-center-study-80-percent-coronavirus-superspreader/281-eb53a16a-632d-4d16-ae31-8cfdce84e570

About 40% of U.S. Coronavirus Deaths Are Linked to Nursing Homes By The New York TimesUpdated September 16, 2020 [https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-nursing-homes.html]

A child exposed to colds and viruses earlier in life will develop a stronger immune system and is less likely to become sick in his or her later years.

“Immunity is immunity,” explains Dr. Jordan S. Orange, chief of immunology, allergy and rheumatology at Texas Children’s Hospital. “When you get it, you have it. So, if you get it earlier, you’re going to be immune earlier.”

However, here’s the catch: there are actually hundreds of different cold viruses. For example, adenovirus -- one of many viruses that causes cough, congestion, pink eye and diarrhea -- has 54 different types.

So, while children may build up immunity to the two or three viruses they’ve been exposed to, there are still hundreds more that their immune systems have not yet encountered. Meaning, that child may get sick from the new viruses just like everyone else.

Some experts still say more exposure to germs is better. The use of hand sanitizers and excessive cleanliness are actually blamed for the increase in asthma, allergies and autoimmune disorders in a theory called the “hygiene hypothesis.” http://www.nbcnews.com/id/48489391/ns/health-childrens_health/t/ask-dr-ty-will-early-exposure-colds-boost-immunity/

[daniel1212]

There is a Reason doctors and nurses have worn masks for the last 100 years. There is a reason construction workers wear masks when dealing with sanding, etc. But feel free to believe that people who have done things for many years for a reason were merely deluded stupid fools. Or, you can reject political ideology as a substitute for common sense.

Most masks do not stop the virus, and which is not like construction dust, but masks can reduce the viral load that one transmits or receives. [https://www.healthline.com/health-news/wearing-a-mask-may-reduce-how-sick-you-get-from-covid-19] However, it is almost always poor health is the real killer. A car limping along due to poor maintenance and or just age can break down under a heavy load, but the problem is its poor condition. 42% of Americans are obese or overweight, and along with hypertension - two conditions the Covid constraint foster - these are to the two most lethal comorbidities. [https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/obr.13128; https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/16/health/coronavirus-obesity-higher-risk.html] And 80 percent of US coronavirus deaths are people 65 and older [https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/488305-cdc-80-percent-of-us-coronavirus-deaths-are-people-65] For reported deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19 (94%), on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities]

If one is healthy, well-rested but active and get it then one almost always will recover, and with a lasting immune response. [https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/16/health/coronavirus-immunity-antibodies.html] For the healthy active person, there is rarely any reason for wearing a mask outside if you can avoid someone getting in your face (stand with the wind at you back if so). Eighty percent of communicable diseases are transferred by touch, so practicing hand hygiene would understandably be important to help fight disease. - https://www.trinityhealth.org/the-keys-to-fighting-covid-19/

SEATTLE — A new, preliminary study from the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle says the novel coronavirus is most likely transferred through “super-spreader” events, and that 80% of those who test positive for the virus never infect anyone else. - https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/fred-hutchinson-cancer-research-center-study-80-percent-coronavirus-superspreader/281-eb53a16a-632d-4d16-ae31-8cfdce84e570

About 40% of U.S. Coronavirus Deaths Are Linked to Nursing Homes By The New York TimesUpdated September 16, 2020 [https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-nursing-homes.html]

[Okeydoker]

I do not disagree with anything you stated