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Posted on 10/08/2020 2:11:51 PM PDT by woofer2425

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To: JoSixChip

“Follow the legal, signed will. It’s a legal document, the unsigned one is not.

Better, no?”

No!


41 posted on 10/08/2020 3:18:46 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: JoSixChip

“””Oh, and I’m not a lawyer. But I did stay at a motel 6 last night.”””

I have watched My Cousin Vinny about twenty times. I know a thing or two about the law. Ask away.


42 posted on 10/08/2020 3:20:22 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: woofer2425

Makes me wonder if the FRIEND spent a lot of time with him and helped him a lot when he needed it but the sister and niece did not!! I don’t think the family will turn it over regardless!!!


43 posted on 10/08/2020 3:22:03 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: TexasGator

Go with the original signed will.

A lot of people claim “he was going to leave me his xxxx”

And fire the lawyer who wants to go with an unfinished will.


44 posted on 10/08/2020 3:24:06 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: hoosierham

“Go with the original signed will.

A lot of people claim “he was going to leave me his xxxx”

And fire the lawyer who wants to go with an unfinished will.”

Apparently you are not knowledgeable in this area of law.


45 posted on 10/08/2020 3:37:08 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Nifster

“First off I’d get a new attorney

The standing legal document is the original will”

Perhaps you are not aware of court cases to the contrary


46 posted on 10/08/2020 3:39:08 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: lastchance

“What kind of lawyer advises a family to ignore a signed legal will in favor of one that is not signed? “

One knowledgeable in the law?


47 posted on 10/08/2020 3:40:08 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus

” If the executor does anything but follow the letter of the signed and filed will, the executor is violating the law and the door is open for lawsuits galore, “

Law has determined that an unsigned may have priority.


48 posted on 10/08/2020 3:42:40 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

“Since he never signed it, how does anyone prove that is what he wanted?”

He was working with a lawyer. There is legal precedent for going with the unsigned will.


49 posted on 10/08/2020 3:44:00 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: woofer2425

[Not a lawyer and dont play one on TV]
I would say that the attorney needs to be put on the spot with a couple of simple questions:

1) According to state probate LAW, which will is current and correct? Usually a signed will is given priority

2) According to state probate LAW, what discretion does the executor of the will have with disregarding the provisions of the will? Usually none.

Usually the answer to those two question will clarify things quite a bit.


50 posted on 10/08/2020 3:44:26 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: campaignPete R-CT

“I’D ask that lawyer if he wants to discuss it with the bar association and spend time on prison.”

BS!


51 posted on 10/08/2020 3:46:32 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

” What they are perhaps casually advising the executor to do is really frickin’ dangerous, from the legal liability standpoint.”

Ignoring the unsigned will is also dangerous from the legal liability standpoint.


52 posted on 10/08/2020 3:48:23 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: woofer2425
Some advice that my lawyer once gave me on the general subject of wills and estates went something like "in this state the Probate Courts are the Wild,Wild West of the judicial system".

What he was saying that you could never be certain how a judge was gonna rule on a certain matter...or in a particular case.

That may,or may not,apply to other states...including yours.

53 posted on 10/08/2020 3:50:14 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Thanks To Biden Voters Oregon's Now A Battleground State)
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To: LouieFisk

“If there is a valid will and an invalid will, I don’t see where a court would go with the invalid one.”

Courts have ruled that an unsigned will may be valid. Even an oral will may be valid!


54 posted on 10/08/2020 3:50:49 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: vigilante2

“The original will. The new will would have to be signed”

Courts have ruled unsigned wills valid even if state law requires a signature.


55 posted on 10/08/2020 3:52:58 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: JoSixChip

I thought it was a Holiday Inn?


56 posted on 10/08/2020 3:54:56 PM PDT by Spirit of Liberty (It's morning in America again!)
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To: woofer2425

There is literally, no choice. There is only one legally signed will. The executor has to follow it.

What the beneficiaries do with their inheritance is their choice.

They have no legal obligation to follow the second unsigned will. Neither do they morally. The living owe the dead nothing. Sucks for the beneficiaries of the 2nd will and the lawyer was lazy in not getting it signed in a timely fashion.


57 posted on 10/08/2020 3:55:39 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: TexasGator

“Courts have ruled that an unsigned will may be valid. Even an oral will may be valid!”

You’d have to ask a lawyer experienced in the area - but I suspect where a will is legally invalid, it’s going to be mighty tough having it enforced over one that is kosher.


58 posted on 10/08/2020 3:59:56 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: Valpal1

“What the beneficiaries do with their inheritance is their choice.”

Also I believe in will boilerplates there can be stipulations along the line of if any beneficiary legally opposes the will, that person’s loses his ‘cut’ and it’s given to the others.


59 posted on 10/08/2020 4:03:33 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: LouieFisk

“but I suspect where a will is legally invalid”

True. But the unsigned one may be valid.


60 posted on 10/08/2020 4:06:05 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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