Posted on 09/07/2020 1:50:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
For me it was a cancer diagnosis, and constant prescriptions of hormone blockers.
It am astounded by the number of people here who have completely bought into the leftist nonsense on this. And this is from someone who both worked and volunteered at the Life Care Center in Kirkland, Washington. Look it up if you do not know what that means.
Did Cuomo and a other Democrats cause excess deaths by forcing nursing homes with vulnerable people to take Covid patients... Obviously! More than 40% of “Covid deaths” in the United States were vulnerable people living in long term care facilities.
Suicides are up, but the number of people dying because they were not able to get treatment or were afraid to get treatment for the real killers... heart disease, cancer, strokes, etc. are also up. But these numbers are masked because like my wife's brother, they are classifying them as Covid deaths even when they are clearly not. You are the one denying reality.
You may choose to live in whatever fantasy world you like. President Trump is taking things seriously and is working to end the problem. It’s actually going to help him win reelection. He has Vice President Mike Pence and others helping. Serious men dealing with serious issues.
You have the LUXURY of your fantasies thanks to the tireless work of men like President Trump and VP Pence. Mock them and their work all you like. Your mockery makes no difference.
So says the man who is huddling in a corner of his home wearing a dust mask. You are so afraid of getting the virus that is so deadly that 90% of those under 70 need a test to let them know that they have had it. Grow up... and grow a pair.
The childish insults you hurl about are as impotent as your attempts at clouding the issues.
A virus emerged from China. China lied about it. That cost many lives in Italy. That led to an overreaction in parts of the US and terrible policies from some Democrat governors which cost many American lives. The Democrats politicized the virus and attempted to weaponize it against President Trump by overhyping it. It’s not harmless (R0 of 2.5 and IFR of 0.65% are nothing to sneeze at), but it is also not the existential threat they’ve tried desperately to make it out to be. President Trump did everything possible to support the states to preserve American lives, and he launched a wonderful effort to accelerate the development and production of safe and effective vaccines to end the whole thing once and for all. He’s about to succeed in that effort and the timing is fortuitous, as it’s perfect for the October surprise to help him win reelection.
Game over, end of story.
We do not have substantive disagreements on the nature of Covid-19. I have posted the same excess death chart from the CDC that you replied to me with on multiple occasions in the last couple of months. I even started threads with it and other charts from the CDC.
I no longer have a great deal of patience on this subject with arrogant snots who are newbies who immediately started insulting long time posters almost as soon as they joined. We have been discussing this subject in great depth since the first part of the year before you joined in the fun.
My wife and I live in Eastern King County which was the first hotspot in the country thanks to half a million recent arrivals from China who are now our neighbors. Many of them visited home for Chinese New Year and then returned. The early "travel ban" had almost no effect when it came to keeping infected people, their associates and families from entering our area from China. Direct flights to SeaTac from Wuhan and other hotspots in China were diverted to Vancouver BC. The infected had to take an additional 3 hour bus ride... that was how much trouble the "travel ban" caused travelers from China into our area. Over 10,000 people took this route to Eastern King and Snohomish Counties in the first week of February alone. Bureaucrats in their infinite wisdom did all that they could to defy the intent of President Trump's orders in every possible way.
My wife is a professional nurse and department head in long term care facilities; I am a retired fire officer who was the senior supervisor of a "big city" Hazmat Team on my shift for years. Biological and Chemical agents were one of my chief areas of concern. Both my wife and I and volunteered and were paid for work we did at the Life Care Center in Kirkland Washington after our official retirements. You might have already known some of this if you had not just joined this forum in May On May 7, the first day that you joined you made 8 comments and you have been very active since. I do not have an issue with your point of view, but a high percentage of your comments are snarky.
Maybe you haven't noticed, but around here you typically get back something similar in tone to what you dish out. You are a newbie but have managed to insult many of my favorite people here on multiple occasions. So despite already writing many reasoned and informed comments which have sometimes paralleled my own point of view almost exactly... I consider you to have a lot of potential but you have not yet become an asset to the community. That is as close as you are going to get to a compliment from me this morning.
Thanks for providing an amusing discussion this morning. It is too bad that you could not have met my wife at some time after your “metabolism went sideways”.
When I met her she was a nurse, taught nutrition classes, was brought in to run the “fat boy” programs at two local military bases and was the “Northwest Regional Aerobics Dance Instructor Champion”. We used to get stopped all the time by normal sized people who could not stop thanking her for helping them lose weight and keep it off.
I can't tell you how many people that we talked to who had stories similar to yours. Even my elderly uncle who was morbidly obese for many decades and use to make us laugh with the same EXACT type of amusing story... managed to lose hundreds of pounds when his doctor told him he either needed to reduce his size or die.
Running has always been the absolute worst way even for young fat people to exercise. It is no wonder you failed trying to lose weight using running as a way to increase your metabolism. It almost always ends in failure. Your story is cute but not accurate even if you have convinced yourself that you are doomed to be fat forever out of frustration. You need to visit a professional nutritionist who specializes in weight loss. In your case it might even be worthwhile to consider a laparoscopic adjustable gastric band, commonly called a lap-band.
Although you may believe that you would gain weight drinking water and eating nothing that is a bet that even you know at some level is not true. You do need professional assistance or your life is not going to be as enjoyable as it could be and probably much shorter than it could be.
“Thanks for providing an amusing discussion this morning. It is too bad that you could not have met my wife at some time after your “metabolism went sideways.”
Boy, the smug self-righteousness of you “there’s only one reason for being fat” cultists would also be amusing, if there weren’t so many people suffering obesity because of it.
“We used to get stopped all the time by normal sized people who could not stop thanking her for helping them lose weight and keep it off.”
As I said, and as you apparently overlooked, I kept the weight off for as long as I could run.
“managed to lose hundreds of pounds when his doctor told him he either needed to reduce his size or die.”
I only need to lose about a hundred. Obviously, I don’t know why your relative was fat or how he lost it.
“Running has always been the absolute worst way even for young fat people to exercise.”
Road apples.
“It is no wonder you failed trying to lose weight using running as a way to increase your metabolism.”
The fact that you don’t even bother to read what I have said is further illustrative of your closed-minded approach to the issue. I didn’t fail. I went down to single-digits body fat, and kept it off for decades. I was a national caliber athlete and a Naval officer.
“Your story is cute”
Wish I could say the same for your arrogance.
“You need to visit a professional nutritionist who specializes in weight loss.”
Been there; done that. The common denominator is their, “What the hell?” reaction to the total failure of their methods.
Your reaction to that will be an automatic assumption that I didn’t really follow their instructions. You will be wrong…again.
“In your case it might even be worthwhile to consider a laparoscopic adjustable gastric band, commonly called a lap-band.”
At my age, and with my long-list of life-threatening medical conditions, the sawbones are unwilling to operate.
“Although you may believe that you would gain weight drinking water and eating nothing”
Can’t you be bothered to understand a single thing I’ve said? I didn’t say I would gain weight on water; I said I would not lose fat.
“that is a bet that even you know at some level is not true.”
It is a cult, you know. I call it “The Church of the Immoral Fatso.” If people are only fat because they eat too much, then they are to blame and thin people are virtuous. If there is a medical issue, if they are fat even though they do not eat too much, then thin people are only lucky. Big step down, from virtuous to lucky.
“You do need professional assistance”
Do you priests in the Church of the Immoral Fatso like to be called “Father” or “Your Majesty?”
“or your life is not going to be as enjoyable as it could be and probably much shorter than it could be.”
I believe the Bible says the life of a man is “three score and ten” years. I’m almost there. I have responsibilities that should be discharged in less than three more years. The thing that could make these last few years more “enjoyable” would be medically appropriate and effective treatment for pain, both chronic and acute, which is no longer available in the United States. At least not to the peasantry. I’m sure the wealthy and privileged get their meds without any problems.
You need to open your mind. There are people who do not overeat, and yet are overweight, who can only lose fat through extreme measures that are beyond the abilities of elderly cripples such as myself.
The “Temps,” “The Four Tops,” Aretha Franklin, Sam & Dave, Jackie Wilson, Sam Cooke, all a major portion of the sound track of my adolescence.
Their music was GREAT!!! Their music was MUSIC!!!
I still listen.
For exampe, FDR may have been taking actions that prolonged the Great Depressio, but he kept getting reelected because the majority of people didn't see it that way.
I can't tell what the majority of people out there are thinking.
Sorry, didn’t mean to set you off. My uncle who lost hundreds of pounds... is my favorite uncle. He was over 90 when he lost all that weight and could not go anywhere without his scooter or an electric wheel chair. Now he can walk around with my aunt and enjoy life again.
You should stop worrying about what ever you believe people think about your rotund size... Who the hell cares? But it is sad that you have lost hope of ever living a normal life again. You need professional help and if you want it you will be able to find it. I have always enjoyed our previous discussions and would only like to hear about your future success. You will be in my prayers.
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