Posted on 06/09/2020 8:41:12 AM PDT by MNDude
Arizona’s death stats. At the page you can also click on the case curve to see that. Both improving a lot lately. Peak has passed.
*Nonsense.*
How so ?
Check the Arizona stats.
The peak is long gone.
Thanks for confirming that you have absolutely no logical reason why you choose not to wear one.
I’m fine with the masks but hasn’t enough shit been shoved up our asses with this virus?
Easy Billy Bob. You’re a man ok. Feel better now?
*Check the Arizona stats.
The peak is long gone.*
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How do they overthrow the establishment when they are the establishment? They’ve been exposed as grifting hypocrites who hide behind children and send mercs to do damage.
All of this to extract more tribute and more power for themselves.
Everyone needs to stand up and say no. Shut them up, then shut them down.
#WALKAWAY
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I was just thinking that maybe one silver lining to the masks is that those who are obsessive about everyone wearing one might decide not to move to common-sense rural areas where only a very few places require them for customers (while making employees wear them)and maybe 90% of those I see are unmasked.
D: It was no more a threat than the flu but people overreacted to it because the liberals need to destroy the economy and stop Trump’s rallies. It worked for China.
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The 2017-2018 flu season had 61,000 deaths in the US; not over 100,000. 2011-2012 it was just 12,000 flu deaths. Average since 2010 is 37,000 flu deaths in the US per year. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
Also, there was no Influenza pandemic in 1965. I think you’re thinking of the 1968 Influenza Pandemic, which was known as the Hong Kong flu. During the 1968-1969 season, it killed about 100,000 in the US over the course of about 18 months. (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1968-pandemic.html)
You might also be thinking of the Asian flu, which was active in 1957-1958 and killed about 116,000 in the US. (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1957-1958-pandemic.html)
Important to note a couple things: these are extremely deadly outliers. Influenza kills around 37,000 in the US each year on average. Once in a while, something particularly deadly shows up, but seasonal flu usually kills fewer than 40,000 in a whole year. And that’s the other point. Asian flu killed about 116,000 over the course of about a year, or about 9,667 people per month over that period of time. Hong Kong flu killed about 100,000 over the course of about 18 months, or about 5,556 Americans per month over the course of its run. SARS-CoV-2 has killed 114,000 Americans in 3 months (38,000 per month during that time) and is ongoing. In other words, it’s killed 3 years worth of seasonal flus in 3 months.
If you looked at the death totals for Asian flu after just 3 months, you wouldn’t think it was anything notable either. Judge its impact from start to finish; don’t look at it 1/4-1/8th of the way through and say “well that was nothing”.
Thank you for being a voice of reason and common sense.
Well said. People also need to keep in mind that what we did (the shutdown) did statistically save a lot of lives - irrespective of the politicians each trying to one up another. Comparing the deaths we had in just three months with an entire flu seasons worth isn’t showing your math story problem skills very well.
Have to disagree about the lockdown. I think it delayed some deaths, but ultimately I think Sweden’s model of social distancing does everything a lockdown can do (slow the spread to prevent overwhelmed hospitals) without a lot of the negative consequences.
I think the problem is that while all the nail salons and beaches were closed, we had 1,000+ people packed into Costco losing their minds over toilet paper every single day. So under those conditions, where everyone is packed into every grocery store in a total panic ripping every item they can get off the shelves as fast as possible, all while packed in and breathing on each other, how does staying at home the rest of the day help anyone?
Sweden’s only real mistake here was their total failure to protect the elderly, particularly those in nursing homes. Had Sweden taken appropriate measures there, I think their response could be called pretty much perfect. Should COVID-19 show a major activity increase again this fall, I think the lesson we should learn from our first attempt at controlling it is to provide measured responses where we keep people separate in public, keep panic down by assuring everyone that stores will remain open, increase sanitation across the board, and for goodness sake, don’t send sick people into nursing homes (looking at you, CUOMO!) We’ll achieve the same results on slowing the spread as we would with a lockdown and we’ll do it without killing every business except Walmart and Costco.
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