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Flubros and Flubras! Day 65 (a place for Flubros and Flubras)
www.freerepublic.com ^ | 23 May 2020 | Impimp

Posted on 05/24/2020 4:34:28 AM PDT by impimp

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It’s just the flu, bro.

The Medical Police State is attacking churches, businesses and recreation. Only strictly utilitarian activities are authorized. This is not good.

The leftist ideal is always disruption of the status quo so they are 100% in support of the medical police state. The dream job for the leftist in this medical police state is Fauci’s job - an unelected bureaucrat with massive power over how the country is run. The last time an unelected leftist had this much power in shaping the world was writer/academic Paul Ehrlich in the early 1970s when he convinced most of the planet’s politicians that overpopulation would lead to massive famine and suffering. He singlehandedly led to the liberalization of global abortion laws. He was dead wrong then, just as Fauci and his supporters are dead wrong now. Note that honorable mention for an unelected leftist wrecking stuff goes to ex-politician Al Gore who, of course, is just as wrong as Fauci and Ehrlich.

1 posted on 05/24/2020 4:34:28 AM PDT by impimp
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2 posted on 05/24/2020 4:35:32 AM PDT by impimp
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Does COVID-19 truly warrant a nationwide shutdown?

No, and that has been made increasingly clear. The predicted dire need for hospital beds did not overall materialize, while most of those who were infected and died have been among those who are quarantined, especially elder care facilities which account for over 40% of US deaths.[1]

Up to about 80 percent of those infected with COVID-19 are estimated to be silent carriers, [2] meaning they show no symptoms (the New York City labor and delivery unit found 88 percent of infected patients had no symptoms, [3] while over 600 sailors on the coronavirus-stricken aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt tested positive, yet 60% of them had no symptoms such as fever, fatigue, or cough,[4]and in four U.S. state prisons nearly 3,300 inmates test positive for coronavirus yet 96% were without symptoms[5] and or recover without medical care[6]) Which means that the infected fatality rate is much lower than the misleading case fatality rate that is usually quoted.

Meanwhile the vast majority of those who die because it are 65 years-old or more[7] and with almost 25% of all documented Covid-assigned (which does not mean the subject was tested for Covid) fatalities in the US (91,976 as of May 18 at 8:49PM EDT) are from New York (28,480)[8] and according to one report 54% of all U.S. deaths were in the 100 counties in or within 100 miles of NYC.

And the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported that almost 90 percent of U.S. coronavirus patients who have been hospitalized had underlying health problems, or comorbidities.[9]

And which relates to the issue of inaccurate fatality numbers, partly due to the problem of determining the actual cause of death and the CDC guidelines which allow for reporting COVID-19 as the “probable” or “presumed” cause on the death certificate if the certifier even suspects COVID-19 was likely (e.g., the circumstances were compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), the cause.[10] Which resulted in NYC suddenly adding 3,700 additional people to its death count[11](also, Federal legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment[12]), leading to charges of over-counting[13][14] while Pennsylvania removed some after coroner reports.[15] Later, Colorado’s Health Department revised their official coronavirus death count from 1,150 as of May 15 downward to 878 (a reduction of 23.7 percent) and created two separate distinguishing categories, one of people who died directly because of the virus and another of people who had COVID-19 at their time of death but died of other causes that may not be attributable to the virus.[16][17] However, some others believe the problem is more that of under-counting. [18]

Also, another study finds that the risk of coronavirus spreading in schools is 'extremely low'.[19]

And while states continue to parrot the “stay sheltered” mantra, research shows that sunlight destroys virus quickly[20], and even a Department of Homeland Security official affirmed that increasing temperatures, humidity and sunlight are detrimental to coronavirus saliva droplets on surfaces and in the air.[21] Also, over 600 doctors signed onto a letter sent to President Trump favoring an end the "national shutdown," referring to it as being a "mass casualty incident" with "exponentially growing health consequences."[22]

Yet miles upon miles of parks and public waterfronts are shutdown, and for too long NY put infected persons in nursing homes[23] (and as of April 26, about 40 percent of COVID-19 deaths were in the state of New York alone. New Jersey was in second place, with nearly 5,900[24]yet the death rate is uncritically employed to justify nationwide lockdowns) while in states such as Illinois law-breaking prisoners were released from their “quarantine” - including some “high risk” sexual offenders[25] and some convicted of murder - [26] and almost a third of county jail inmates have been released from facilities during the coronavirus pandemic.[27] Meanwhile over 2,000[28] of the most vulnerable souls a day in “quarantine” - their mother’s womb - are murdered, many by the same persons claim to be for protecting the vulnerable.

Moreover, the extremely restrictive all-ages long-term response to COVID-19 simply has no precedent in American history except (to a degree) that of the 1918 flu (in which baseball was still played) which up t 675,000 deaths are attributed.[29]

The Asian flu pandemic of 1957-1958 resulted in a estimated 116,000 deaths in America[30] (followed by the Hong Kong flu with about est. 100,000 American deaths in 1968–69), when at about 173,000,000, the population size in 57-58 was close to half of what it is now (330,541,000, rounded figures).

Meaning that not only was the infection death rate much higher than for COVID-19, but there would have to be about 200,000 COVID-19 est. deaths to be comparable to the Asian flu as regards percentaged of population. Yet that would simply make it basically equal as concerns the numbers of deaths in proportion to population size, but to justify the "CovidCaptivity," one would have to argue that the Asian flu should have necessitated a response like that to COVID-19. The Soviets would have favored that for sure.

The question then is, where was the COVID-19 comparative response in 57-58 in proportion to its threat? Yes, the 116,000 deaths in America to the Asian flu was for the whole year, yet even if we reach about 200,000 deaths (we pray not) for COVID-19 then that type of equality would still mean that the extremely restrictive all-ages long-term response to COVID-19 simply has no precedent in American history, except to a degree with the far more deadly (550,000 to 675,000 Americans, or 0.66% of the population) 1918 flu.

And during which medics found that severely ill flu patients nursed outdoors recovered better than those treated indoors. A combination of fresh air and sunlight seems to have prevented deaths among patients; and infections among medical staff. [31]

Finally, last but not least, the cost for the “cure” as meaning preventing deaths via the stay-sheltered COVID captivity will be more costly in lives and money including psychosocial consequences[32] than a more moderate response that would allow for a faster rise in cases but a better decrease and overall a more healthy populace in the long run. [33][34][35]

Already, as concerns just suicide, we have reports such as “Calls to suicide and help hotline in Los Angeles increase 8,000% due to coronavirus,”[36] and “Doctors at John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek say they have seen more deaths by suicide during this quarantine period than deaths from the COVID-19 virus,”[37]

Yet while we seek to save lives, 7,000 Americans die every day in the US from a wide range of causes, [38] and my prayer is that all people will come to repentance and faith in the risen Lord Jesus and be baptized and follow Him.

Hope this helps. PeaceByJesus

Footnotes

[1] STAGGERING: Nursing Home Residents Account for a Whopping 43.4% of COVID-19 Deaths, Even Though They're Less Than 1% of the U.S. Population
[2] Coronavirus Outbreak: Daily Updates
[3] https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/04/20/we-tested-all-our-patients-covid-19-found-lots-asymptomatic-cases/
[4] Coronavirus clue? Most cases aboard U.S. aircraft carrier are symptom-free
[5] In four U.S. state prisons, nearly 3,300 inmates test positive for coronavirus -- 96% without symptoms
[6] The basics on the coronavirus: What you need to know as the US becomes the new epicenter of COVID-19
[7] CDC: 80 percent of US coronavirus deaths are people 65 and older
[8] New York Coronavirus: 361,266 Cases and 28,480 Deaths (COVID-19 )
[9] Hospitalization Rates and Characteristics of Patients Hospitalized ...
[10] Technical Notes: Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)
[11] N.Y.C. Death Toll Soars Past 10,000 in Revised Virus Count
[12] Fact check: Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators
[13] As US coronavirus death toll mounts, so does the belief by some that it is exaggerated
[14] Death Toll Conspiracy: Why Conservative Media—And Soon, Possibly Trump—Are Doubting Coronavirus Mortality Figures
[15] Pennsylvania Takes Hundreds of 'Probable' COVID Deaths Off Books After Coroners Come Forward
[16] Colorado's state health dept. revises method of counting COVID-19 deaths; 878 deaths as of Friday - KRDO
[17] Case data | Colorado COVID-19 Updates
[18] How are COVID-19 deaths counted?
[19] Risk of coronavirus spreading in schools is 'extremely low' study finds 
[20] https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/04/17/sunlight-destroys-virus-quickly-new-govt-tests-find-but-experts-say-pandemic-could-last-through-summer
[21] https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2020-04-23/us-official-sunlight-heat-humidity-could-help-kill-coronavirus
[22] Doctors raise alarm about health effects of continued coronavirus shutdown: 'Mass casualty incident'
[23] How States Turned Nursing Homes Into ‘Slaughter Houses’ By Forcing Them to Admit Discharged COVID-19 Patients | Jon Miltimore
[24] New York vs. Texas: NY Has Nearly 50 Times More COVID-19 Deaths Per Capita | Ryan McMaken
[25] CA Gov. Frees Seven ‘High Risk’ Sex Offenders, Orders Beaches Closed, All In Same County - LaCorte News
[26] Almost 4,000 inmates released from IL prisons, 64 convicted of murder
[27] One Third Of Jail Inmates Nationwide Set Free in Unprecedented Coronavirus Jailbreak - Big League Politics
[28] Induced Abortion in the United States
[29] Spanish flu - Wikipedia
[30] 1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus)
[31] Coronavirus and the Sun: a Lesson from the 1918 Influenza Pandemic
[32] Years of life lost due to the psychosocial consequences of COVID19 mitigation strategies based on Swiss data
[33] Stanford University doctor: 'You are mistaken' if you think coronavirus lockdowns provide safety
[34] Thanks to COVID-19, Social Security’s day of reckoning may be even closer than we thought
[35] Workers opt for unemployment as benefits exceed job pay
[36] Calls to suicide and help hotline in Los Angeles increase 8,000% due to coronavirus
[37] Suicides on the rise amid stay-at-home order, Bay Area medical professionals say
[38] QuickStats: Average Daily Number of Deaths, by Month — United States,

3 posted on 05/24/2020 4:37:03 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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Good morning
It’s just the Flubro


4 posted on 05/24/2020 4:40:17 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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Is anyone else showing pages and pages of the same post? Hacked, maybe?


5 posted on 05/24/2020 4:43:39 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Nothing happens to a Christian that God does not allow to happen.)
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Never mind. It was my device.


6 posted on 05/24/2020 4:45:10 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Nothing happens to a Christian that God does not allow to happen.)
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To: impimp

Good morning. In before kojak and the urine specialist.


7 posted on 05/24/2020 4:46:03 AM PDT by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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+1,036 DEAD
+21,929 New Cases
98,683TOTAL DEAD


8 posted on 05/24/2020 4:47:52 AM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: cweese

Morning Covidiot.


9 posted on 05/24/2020 4:48:38 AM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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Thumbs up


10 posted on 05/24/2020 4:48:59 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Kozak

Morning crybaby.


11 posted on 05/24/2020 4:54:47 AM PDT by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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Morning feartard.


12 posted on 05/24/2020 4:54:54 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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You’re really going to orgasm when the fake death rate hits 100,000. Min you the real death rate per cdc is only approaching 70,000. What are you going to do. Long candle lit dinner then cuddling with your right hand?

You are a pathetic waste of time who offers nothing but your own smug and incorrect narcissism, you ignorant panicking ass. You can’t make a rational argument so you are left with the same ridiculous tripe day after day.

Thank you for being the face of Fearpers. The exuberantly irrational and the galactically stupid..


13 posted on 05/24/2020 4:59:37 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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Thank you for being the face of Fearpers.

You're famous, Kojak!!

Now you're ready to apply as a democrat. They're gonna love you.

#DerpStateResumeEnhancer


14 posted on 05/24/2020 5:03:20 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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You’re pretty dedicated to your propaganda. Is your check signed by Pelosi or Soros? They probably just transfer the funds digitally via the DNC.


15 posted on 05/24/2020 5:05:47 AM PDT by Codeflier (Covid-19 taught me: Two types of "conservatives", frightened safety seekers vs. freedom lovers)
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So uh... how do you know those numbers are accurate?

The tests still have a 30% error rate.

Are you going to post the common flu and cold death rates next year or is it just this one magical mystery bug that you’re concerned with because you’re a sheep?


16 posted on 05/24/2020 5:14:44 AM PDT by Skywise
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More proof the lockdown is a scam
17 posted on 05/24/2020 5:34:31 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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It’s just a cold, bro. With diarrhea.


18 posted on 05/24/2020 5:54:02 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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If you believe all those people actually died from the Wuhan flu, I have a bridge to sell you.


19 posted on 05/24/2020 5:54:41 AM PDT by jospehm20
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_K_O_Z_A_K_
WHADAYAGOT?
DUMBASS!
WHUU HUU FLU DUMBASS!!

20 posted on 05/24/2020 6:10:22 AM PDT by haffast (Double Standards Exist. Freedom of Speech. Patriots are Dying. Woke is hard. Anons Know.)
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