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Qasr Bashir – A Roman fortlet in Jordan
his weblog ^ | June 23, 2016 | Roger Pearse

Posted on 04/19/2020 1:54:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: SunkenCiv

Or maybe the German Crusaders took ther term for a fortified military installation with them to the Holy Land, and Arabic borrowed the term from them? Or was the term an earlier Arabic one? (We need a philologist here on this issue.)


21 posted on 04/20/2020 8:03:33 AM PDT by imardmd1
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To: SunkenCiv
Nice photos, and Thanks for your ever-reliable efforts!

Probably "Castra" Arabicized = "Qasr", eh?

22 posted on 04/20/2020 8:17:57 AM PDT by imardmd1
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To: Tallguy
That's correct [Constantius I Chlorus]. After the crisis of the 3rd century, the Emperor Aurelian defeated a huge barbarian invasion after recovering from a defeat by those very same barbarians, defeated his Roman rivals, put the Empire back together, sobered everyone up something wonderful, built the Aurelian Wall around Rome (parts still exist and visible), defeated a rebellion in the east, consolidated borders, and did all of it in five years, despite his humble birth. Oh, and was assassinated by one of his aides who apparently thought his own corruptions had been found out. This brief respite in the Empire's troubles were followed by a few more years of much better organized troubles.
The next effective leader was Emperor Diocletian. The D man reestablished central imperial control, then, for the first time in Roman history, set up a system to regularize the succession process, making Emperor more frankly and openly a hereditary office. He divided the Empire into two parts, and each of the halves into two parts, so that there were two emperors and two heirs apparent running things in a coordinated fashion. Then Diocletian built a self-sufficient retirement villa (still stands in Split, Croatia) and retired, compelling his eastern colleague to retire at the same time, leading to the first test of the system. Each of their designated heirs rose in rank, then named their own successors. After a couple of bumps in the road, it worked out.
The Roman commander Carausius was under a cloud when he led his legions and the Atlantic navy over to Britain, creating the first independent "united kingdom". Eventually he got murdered by his short-lived successor, who apparently thought he'd get back into the good graces of Rome if he did in his boss (or perhaps had connived with Rome), but that really didn't work out for him. It's possible that Carausius or Allectus constructed the still-mysterious Wansdyke.
There was an ongoing climate event, the Roman Cooling, during which Central Asian ethnic groups were migrating out along the steppes, which are like the North American Great Plains, but instead of N-S they go E-W. This resulted in generations of pressure on the Roman polity in northern and western Europe, and large shifts and new layers of paint as it were. But everything had to work out the way that it did to result in my own rather unremarkable and mostly unremarked existence, so I'm okay with this. :^)
Emperor Constantine wound up ruling the entire Empire, which was beset on all sides, and did a pretty good job. He stopped wasting resources on persecution of Christians, who made up a very large part of the population by that time. He publically converted (although he continued to revere Mars and Apollo), wound up executing various members of his family, and replaced the old Greek city Byzantium with the remarkable Constantinople. The "Engineering an Empire" episode about Constantinople is well worth seeing. In a way, he's the Henry VIII of the Roman Empire; he converted to a new faith, but still did observations in the old one, he used the power of the state and supremo of his religion to confiscate treasuries from the pagan deities' temples, and demolishing same, analogous to Viii's dissolution of the monasteries.
It's strange to consider that the final fall of the Roman Empire took place about 40 years before Columbus set sail in the Santa Maria.

23 posted on 04/20/2020 8:58:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: imardmd1
Yup, that's what I'd kinda thought (probably the same for the German word, Latin route), and that's what the wiki-wacky page sez. I've been wondering if Kasserine Pass (site of a US defeat in WWII) may have its roots in Qasr / castra as well. Probably not though, unless it's indirect.

24 posted on 04/20/2020 9:05:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

might be a great place for a remake of The Lost Patrol


25 posted on 04/20/2020 5:13:36 PM PDT by wildbill (The older I get, the less 'life in prison" means to me)
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To: SunkenCiv

So, SunkenCiv, what’s the strategic advantage of a “fortlet” like this. Even though it could house a garrison and a small unit of cavalry, what else did it do. Would it provide temporary refuge from an uprising until help arrived? Was it really just a trading center with protective walls?

I read quite a bit, but still didn’t find the answers to these questions.

Thanks.


26 posted on 04/25/2020 7:22:31 PM PDT by oldplayer
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It was a long frontier, but distant from any meaningful settlements, so, no indigenous uprisings to worry about, and the garrison had unobstructed views, probably in all directions. They were a cavary force and could patrol and strike quickly if needed. Other forts of course existed along and (as here) out in front of the more than 900 mile Limes Arabicus. The barrier tended to funnel trade into Roman controlled gates across ancient existing routes.

27 posted on 04/25/2020 7:39:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: wildbill
I just read a summary -- I'm sure I've seen that, I must have been very young, and it was on TV. And not a bad idea. Of course, it would need some sprucin' up...

28 posted on 04/25/2020 7:58:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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https://www.tabulae-geographicae.de/2017/03/31/new-inscriptions-from-saudi-arabia-and-the-extent-of-roman-rule-along-the-red-sea/


29 posted on 01/22/2021 6:21:52 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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Qasr Bashir – Image Credit : Christopher Sprake – Shutterstock

Qasr Bashir – Image Credit : Christopher Sprake – Shutterstock

30 posted on 03/31/2021 10:52:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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Sometimes I wonder how various pieces - stone and brick especially - end up on the ground . . . where they rest.

Around here, you can see 1 twister every 5-10 minutes during the afternoon hours, on a warm sunny day.

The lower portion of the twister, drills the ground and rocks, raising dust 300 ft plus into the air.

Usually there is pause - in appearance, as stuff falls back to the ground - and then 50 to 200 ft away, that twister’s base is ready for more earth moving.

At night, with the sun long gone, the heat of your roof will “attracts” a small twister, and stuff up on the roof is then moved around. Rocks end up on the ground around your domicile.

So, I am thinking that the elements move those bricks and stone, more than visitors, in some locations.


31 posted on 03/31/2021 11:09:15 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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I think the reason more of these stones remain than at other sites is the remoteness of the location. Perfectly good reusable building stone, vs. unshaped local rocks that are nearby.


32 posted on 03/31/2021 11:26:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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