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K-12: The Most Appalling Things About Today's Students
Canada Free Press ^ | March 23, 2020 | Bruce Deitrick Price

Posted on 04/08/2020 6:30:52 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice

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To: wintertime
Sorry, I can't leave you alone. I clearly see that your approach is complementary to my approach. I couldn't hope to help a child with playing a musical instrument or making a piece of art. Both of our pathways are terribly important. Let me share some things with you, and then get back to this.

I retired from electronic and software engineering after 43 years in that career. All along I have been a woodworker and a metalworker. I have even made rockets from scratch as a hobby. After a short time in retirement I became very restless. I mentored the school's robotics team while my boys were there and a couple of years after that. I heard that the school was going to offer an Embedded Computing class; however, the teacher scheduled for the class had a heart attack and had to go on extended leave. I called the principle of the school and offered to teach the class.

In order to teach the class, I was issued a permit that put me into the classroom under the condition that I work toward earning a teaching certificate. Ok, off to the races. The school allowed me to purchase $12,000 worth of equipment and materials.

Teaching was very rewarding, but it is very difficult. One is expected to teach dullards through geniuses in the same class. That actually doesn't work, regardless what the pedagogy says. It had a good time, the students loved my class, and they learned things that were way outside their preexisting mindset. Numerous students told me that mine was the best class they had in all of high school and several told me that their life's goals became set upon taking that class. I really couldn't develop the horsepower to get a certificate, so after three years the certificate expired.

I learned some very important things. A teaching job is very difficult; and, teachers take a full workload home with them every night. Teachers are usually very competent; however, state and county rules interfere with their ability to teach effectively. The major thrust of administrative intervention is mitigating parental anger and readjusting continuously from lawsuits. Parents almost never get angry because the schoolwork is too easy or the state mandated curriculum is content-less. Parents sue because their baby thinks the work is too hard, or they didn't get a fair grade. Parents are the ones who push the educational standards down. After all, how is their pride and joy going to get that football scholarship if he gets kicked of the the team for having terrible math grades?

Another thing I observed was that curriculum is established at the state level and then mandated down to the schools. Those in the education department have doctorate degrees in education, but have no knowledge in the subject areas. That upper hierarchy is an interesting set of interlocking fiefdoms, quite impenetrable from down below. This is the source of the degradation in the quality of our Nation's educational system.

My question to you is, "How do we fix our Nation's educational system in order to maximize the quality of education for all?". (After using compiled computer languages for so long, nested punctuation marks for normal grammar bewilders me.) For the sake of this argument, please assume that homeschooling is off the table. Most parents couldn't do it.

41 posted on 04/10/2020 12:07:31 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice
I'm helping instruct my grand niece who is in third grade since I am a retired teacher. Here is an example of how they expect the kids to answer one of her math problems.

8x50

(8x5) tens

40x10

40x10=400.

42 posted on 04/10/2020 12:15:07 PM PDT by mware (RETIRED)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

“How about the student who didn’t know how to peel a carrot?”

Geez. I learned this in Montessori school when I was four years old. They let us cut them, too. With an actual knife.


43 posted on 04/10/2020 12:18:17 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: GingisK

The youngest finished her master’s in computer engineering last May. She also has an associates degree in mechanical engineering. Her salary is in the 6 figures.

The other two homeschoolers have the math background to do anything in the engineering fields that they choose. They choose not to do that.


44 posted on 04/10/2020 2:12:18 PM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: GingisK

You have outlined an evil and toxic system that **HURTS** children.

Can we agree that those who cooperate with evil and are the agents implementing the evil **are** evil, stupid, or both.


45 posted on 04/10/2020 2:18:32 PM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: GingisK

Congratulations to you for having the good sense to quit.


46 posted on 04/10/2020 2:21:23 PM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: GingisK

The fix:

Literally,....Within seconds of our state’s governor closing the schools, texts notifying parents of “pop-up” camps for working moms and dads from my grandsons’ karate and boxing studios appeared in my daughter’s text stream. Yes! Seconds!

If government schooling were to suddenly disappear how long would it take those studios to hire teachers and offer extended daycare? My guess?... About 1 minute.

The fix is to begin the process of privatizing K-12 schooling beginning with tax credits and vouchers. The ideal would be to work toward having no government involvement in schooling.

Do you think that there could be robotics teams and science fairs organized privately or by the departments of parks and recreation? Could the county parks systems take over the responsibility of running children’s orchestras, theater, and team sports? Yes, of course they could!


47 posted on 04/10/2020 2:37:09 PM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: wintertime

Oh, dear. I might end up in your camp. We’ll have to find something else to allow us to exchange snide remarks.


48 posted on 04/10/2020 3:03:32 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

Very good! Sitting here laughing. There is a good chance we’ll be friends.


49 posted on 04/10/2020 3:20:22 PM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: mware

I condemn Common Core any chance I get. Like now.


50 posted on 04/11/2020 7:02:41 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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To: real saxophonist

Sorry, I don’t know the name.

I write for CFP, that’s how I think of it.


51 posted on 06/06/2020 6:50:20 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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