Posted on 03/25/2020 10:05:49 AM PDT by Mariner
You left off the race-based, Silk Road and gender arguments.
Scathing commentary: “Some Chinese people here and some of their company bosses should actually re-assess why they moved to Australia and why they made a pledge of allegiance when clearly their allegiance still lies in the heart of communist Beijing
“It was a worldwide fleecing of stock.... In an almost military operation, massive numbers of surgical masks, thermometers, antibacterial wipes, hand sanitizzers, gloves and Panadol were stripped from the shelves and shipped to China.
[Greenland Group] even had the temerity to exhibit the packing on social media. This carried on unabated for two months. Most of these employees would be Australian residents and citizens but with an overwhelming loyalty to their old communist masters back home... ‘We felt compelled to assist in efforts to mitigate the spread of the virus which had caused a shortage of crucial medical supplies in China. “
According to the company newsletter, the group sourced 3M protective masks, 700K hazmat suits and 500K protective gloves from Australia, Canada, Turkey and other countries...It said, “We’ve organized the manpower and material resources to purchase medical supplies such as masks, protective clothing and goggles in major Australian cities.”
As if it wasn’t obvious, even back in January, that this virus would find its way to Australia our Chinese community, our student population, the million Chinese tourist - they’re massive numbers. And now we have hospital staff screaming out for masks and protective gowns...
Sky News Australia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLAey9PZAn8
There’s a certain stubbornness in human debates. Sometimes I think half the world must have some Calabrian blood (the legendary testa duras of Italy).
So much error has been committed by those who had too much pride to see the other side.
>>Our military learned nothing from the Princess ships.
Worse, they are seriouly listening to the CDC about the Princess ships.
#headdesk all aroud on that one.
The problem with the mutation theory is that it could go either way (that’s how we got here, whether it was a deliberate mutation induced in a lab or a natural one). And it still doesn’t eliminate the existing strain. And there is no guarantee that a mutation will confer immunity against other strains, anyway. And viable, distinct mutations don’t happen as often as people seem to think.
Wonder drug cocktail is a better hope.
We will be dealing with this for the foreseeable future. Treatment until a vaccine is produced, then vaccinate everyone in the world. Make this extinct like smallpox is supposed to be.
That's an interesting question, in view of how this monster came to be.
Of course leukemia attacks the white cells, if I remember right, and so does our friend corona. Medical help accepted here.
“Wow. 80 % of those infected in New York are 64 or younger. Looks like the old folks are smart and staying inside now.”
Per Doctor X, 50 is the new 65 for this disease.
And it never was an old people’s disease. Almost anyone can get it.
I've read that if you're allergic to ragweed, don't take echinacea. I'm allergic to ragweed and cannot eat certain fruits and vegetables that are related/cross-pollenated (watermelon, cucumbers, bananas, etc.). Allergies are weird that way.
And it is virtually harmless to the those under 65. The actual flu is more dangerous the COVID-19.
“Waffle House Cook Survives Coronavirus After Four Day Hospital Stay, Now Wants Lockdowns Lifted, Everyone to Get Back to Work.”
The very essence of solipsism.
Never thought about that but now I will.
It’s kind of like wearing a smiley face pin instead of smiling.
You’re on a roll.
Chi-com propaganda wing Xinhau produces videos celebrating sending 20 tons of supplies and another 14 ‘advisors’ to Italy, Lombardy region.
A red flag is China sending even more ‘police’ to ‘help’ Italy patrol streets and ‘protect’ Chinese citizens from racism in Italy.
Xinhau has also highlighted sending (military) doctors to Serbia. Who send nightly reports on what Serbia is doing back to their overlords. Serbia imported a Chinese chef so the CCP members don’t have to eat western food.
Both videos are military-heavy (a contrast to western videos, where any military involvement is downplayed)
There are supposedly other things, elderberry and the like. My local health food store has a combination liquid.
NETHERLANDS
Millions of flowers destroyed - 80% of Holland’s flower production destroyed. Dutch Flower Auction trade collapses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KB-gEg3aGU
Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
Regarding the proportion of resolved cases being too small... Hmmm... I’m going to have to think about that.
You’re right that it seems to kill the weak fast and then picks off a steady stream as the cases resolve. The effect that will have on the final numbers won’t be known until, well, when the pandemic is over. That’s the nature of the Case Fatality Rate. However, it’s still worth looking at the CFR while the pandemic is underway. And I do believe that 3,000 closed cases is enough to make it worth looking at that number.
But for the sake of argument, let’s assume that there are 10 times as many closed cases in the U.S. as have been reported, and that all of them fall in the “recovered” column. Then the math becomes, with up-to-the-minute numbers from Worldometers:
1100 / (1100 + 18,630) = 5.6%
That’s a pretty high fatality rate. Higher for sure, than the seasonal flu.
Finding the lab that made it and then finding the antidote or vaccine they undoubtedly made for their own people.
I call it the “instantaneous CFR” for the reasons you described.
It is not a worthless stat, but as you say, we won’t have the final number until this is over.
What I look for is the convergence of the Deaths-to-Cases Ratio (DCR) and the CFR. Once those are close - they will by definition converge once all the cases are resolved - the numbers become more meaningful.
Right now the expected final CFR in SK and on the DP are pretty easy to ballpark. It was trivial to predict that SK’s and DP’s CFRs could only climb when the rates of change of the CFR and DCR were compared. For SK, under 2% CFR might even be optimistic. But unless there is a big tail spike in the case of SK and DP the final numbers will be in between the current DCRs and CFRs.
For most other countries it’s too early to predict. The DCR could decrease and take the CFR with it - I expect that in the US as testing becomes much more prevalent and more mild cases are documented (not discovered, we know how many there are, roughly). But if more local HCSs are overwhelmed, it could go the other way. Too early to be sure.
Aid supplies sent to China by Chinese citizens in America and American govt being sold back to America at a “high” profit? evidence.
Chinese test kits said to be donated to Czech Republic were actually sold, and have a 80% error rate
start about 3 min in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP6ru9aE8OM
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