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Italy hit with one-day record 368 new coronavirus deaths
Times of Israel ^
| Today, 8:08 pm
| Dmitry Zaks
Posted on 03/15/2020 1:09:56 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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posted on
03/15/2020 1:09:56 PM PDT
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Zhang Fei
To: Zhang Fei
Italy’s experience suggests that the rumors about Chinese crematoriums running 24 hours a day are accurate - the Chinese death toll is likely in the tens of thousands. We should prepare for the deluge.
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posted on
03/15/2020 1:11:57 PM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
To: Zhang Fei
Not sure I buy this prima facia.
Not sure I’ve seen enough evidence that these statistics coming out of Ital aren’t confusing seasonal flu cases and deaths with COVID 19 SARS thing.
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posted on
03/15/2020 1:13:49 PM PDT
by
Jim W N
(MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
To: Zhang Fei
I read elsewhere that the median age of victims was 82
A perfect storm for urban/modern Italy: one of the demographically oldest societies in the world, with many elderly living alone or connected only with other elderly, urban density, and a disease that seems to target the elderly.
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posted on
03/15/2020 1:14:29 PM PDT
by
PGR88
To: Zhang Fei
That’s socialized medicine for ya.
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posted on
03/15/2020 1:15:22 PM PDT
by
CodeToad
(Arm Up! They Have!)
To: Jim W N
[Not sure I buy this prima facia.
Not sure Ive seen enough evidence that these statistics coming out of Ital arent confusing seasonal flu cases and deaths with COVID 19 SARS thing.]
To my knowledge, the seasonal flu has never involved headline-making triage efforts where traffic accident and stroke victims are shunted off, and 65-year-olds with pre-existing conditions aren’t even looked at, let alone treated.
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posted on
03/15/2020 1:17:23 PM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
To: PGR88
It should now be clear that the extreme measures being taken are not crazy or an overreaction. And we need to stop trying to minimize the impact by saying that this virus only attacks the elderly. The biggest issue is that if the infection increases at a rate beyond that which hospitals can manage, it wont only be the elderly dying from it. What does everyone think happens to you if you are in a serious accident, suddenly have a heart attack, etc., regardless of age, when you are rushed to the hospital and there are no ICU beds or equipment available to treat you because some people scoffed at the reaction to the virus as overblown and as a result behaved in ways that caused the virus to explode?
Think people; its straight forward logic and simple math.
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posted on
03/15/2020 1:21:32 PM PDT
by
noiseman
(The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.`)
To: Jim W N
To: noiseman
What data will be used to make the decision to go back to normal?
Who will make that decision?
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posted on
03/15/2020 1:24:49 PM PDT
by
Repeal The 17th
(Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
To: PGR88
Add this to the mix:
Italys outbreak has also marked some of the first reported cases of coronavirus being imported back to China. Qingtian, a small county in Chinas southeastern Zhejiang province, confirmed eight new cases of coronavirus on March 2 from Chinese nationals living in Italys Lombardy region. There are more than 300,000 Chinese nationals living in Italy, and roughly 90% of them in the Zhejiang Province; the garment industry there has attracted Chinese workers.Fortune Magazine - March 6th
To: for-q-clinton
Where’s Israel on that chart?
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posted on
03/15/2020 1:31:33 PM PDT
by
Jim W N
(MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
To: noiseman
[And we need to stop trying to minimize the impact by saying that this virus only attacks the elderly. ]
This is an election year. The elderly tend to vote for Trump. Leaving aside the purely humanitarian aspects of mass death and illness, we don’t want the elderly shunted off to an early grave or ICU’s so that Democratic ballot harvesters can turn them into Biden voters. We need to put Trump back in office for another term.
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posted on
03/15/2020 1:34:23 PM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
To: Jim W N
Don't see it. But when looking I found this on anther site...still no Israel. But USA is #1 again:
To: Repeal The 17th
What data will be used to make the decision to go back to normal? Who will make that decision? I cant answer that as Im not an expert or in charge of the response. What I do know is that the faster we can get this over with, the faster we can get back to normal. Given the economic impact of what is happening currently, it is dead obvious that the right approach is to take ANY measures necessary to stamp this thing out before it gets worse in order to limit the long-term damage. Taking extreme measures for a relatively short time is infinitely better than taking half-measures and thereby creating a situation in which we will have to impose draconian measures for a far longer period of time.
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03/15/2020 1:37:32 PM PDT
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noiseman
(The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.`)
To: Repeal The 17th
When the new cases per day in the US peaks and turns down to
half of the peak.
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posted on
03/15/2020 1:38:51 PM PDT
by
Paladin2
To: Zhang Fei
“...but more economically productive than neighboring Switzerland to the north”
Now there is an interesting dig.
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posted on
03/15/2020 1:40:33 PM PDT
by
Paladin2
To: Zhang Fei
Italy has a national health plan (Servizio Sanitario Nazionale), which provides for hospital and medical benefits. In Italy, healthcare is considered a right and the national health plan is designed to provide for all Italian citizens and residents, including U.S. and Canadian citizens who are legal residents of Italy.
https://internationalliving.com/countries/italy/health-care-in-italy/
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posted on
03/15/2020 1:41:24 PM PDT
by
Libloather
(Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
To: Jim W N
Good point.
Wouldnt there be a lot of people with both flu and Corona? If they die, how do they decide which to attribute as the cause?
To: Repeal The 17th
A WHO announcement that the pandemic has ended will restore confidence and will be most important indicator.
I predict it will come the day after the Nov 2020 US Presidential election, and will be coordinated with an announcement by President-Elect Joseph R. Biden.
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posted on
03/15/2020 1:49:07 PM PDT
by
nwrep
Convenient all these deaths are attributed to C19 and we aren’t told the demographics
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posted on
03/15/2020 2:00:58 PM PDT
by
Vendome
(I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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