Coronavirus: Diamond Princess guest slammed as 'Ugly American' for refusing to self-isolate

So what about all the reports of stacked bodies and nonstop cremations in Wuhan? What is most likely is that the CCP is lying about the mess in Wuhan and probably all their other stats are bogus, too. They have a history.

I tend to think that the Chinese would not shut their economy down for a prank.

While there might be more Asian casualties than non-Asian, it did start in Asia, after all.

If you wander through an apple orchard and look on the ground you will see fallen apples. That does not mean that only apples fall off of fruit trees. Causation versus correlation.

There is as yet insufficient data to conclude that it will affect different races differently, and unless the reports out of Wuhan are part of the hoax, the thing is certainly lethal to Asians. We have to assume it will affect other races with about the same lethality.

The two factors that are clear from the data are that age matters and that when your health care system is saturated and overwhelmed, a lot more people die.

[So what about all the reports of stacked bodies and nonstop cremations in Wuhan? What is most likely is that the CCP is lying about the mess in Wuhan and probably all their other stats are bogus, too. They have a history.]

There is no unitary “CCP” that thinks and acts like a giant ant hill. There is Xi Jinping and the other key leaders who would like to be head honcho instead of Xi.

[I tend to think that the Chinese would not shut their economy down for a prank.]

It’s not a prank. It’s a power play in the midst of uncertainty, combined with the fact that epidemics tend to bring out a Pavlovian reaction among Chinese contenders for power - a signal that the time for revolt/mutiny is nigh. It’s a reaction elicited by the fact that Chinese pols don’t so much look decades or centuries ahead, as thousands of years backwards, for historical precedent. And epidemics preceded a number of serious popular revolts/elite mutinies.

There is no giant ant hill of “Chinese” drones. There is Xi Jinping and the people who would like to be sitting where he is. This is not some kind of joke - he is literally surrounded by enemies, even people he personally appointed. Public servility combined with vicious (and occasionally murderous) plots are part of an ancient Chinese tradition.

For a long and involved explanation, read this entry about the complicated dynamics that belie the surface calm of life at the top in China:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3820772/posts?page=26#26

[There is as yet insufficient data to conclude that it will affect different races differently]

Re coronaviruses, it’s not a racial distinction. It’s a distinction between consumers and non-consumers of exotic game. Chinese have a several thousand year tradition of eating exotic animals. Koreans and Japanese do not. Nor, to my knowledge, do Vietnamese or just about any other nationality in the world, with the exception of Africans, who have a fondness for bush meat of just about every type. In China, it’s partly to do with the role of exotic game in TCM (traditional Chinese medicine):

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/reference/traditional-chinese-medicine/

I suspect that there are other factors causing the high illness rates among Asians, besides proximity.

Let's say that smoking slows the lungs ability to sweep out foreign pathogens, as compared to non-smokers.

That would start to explain why statistics for children under 10 (or 9?) show no deaths. And perhaps why the virus will not kill many otherwise healthy non-smokers in the West.

The flu kills thousands every year, and most are killed by some form of fluid in the lungs. Very rough on asthmatics and the elderly.

Would be interesting to compare infection rates, and death rates, among patients that smoked cigarettes (China) verses Westerners that smoke pot and derivatives.

I don't know how much to simply blame on the ACE-2 markers, but I suspect that there are other issues at play.

Yes. And it’s up to 24 days incubation.

There was a post here about some in-depth study that showed the average (average) [average] time from symptom onset to case resolution was 28 days. Add in 10-14 days of incubation, and your AVERAGE infected person is apparently carrying the virus around for a month and a half. Not just 14 days.

Which would certainly explain why so many negatives coming off the cruise ship later tested positive.

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