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Coronavirus: Diamond Princess guest slammed as 'Ugly American' for refusing to self-isolate
AsiaOne ^ | MARCH 01, 2020 | Christopher Johnson

Posted on 03/02/2020 5:09:53 PM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 03/02/2020 5:09:53 PM PST by nickcarraway
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I have a sneaking suspicion that the Chinese numbers might be correct. Not because Xi Jinping is an honest man, but because the overwrought Chinese response might simply be Xi’s response to the pressures placed on him because of factional rivalries. Why does a quasi-emperor figure like Xi even have any pressures from the ant hill he bestrides? Isn’t he a queen ant, a living god who not only commands unconditional obedience, but the literal worship of the drones who live to kiss his feet and otherwise pay obeisance to His Awesomeness? For a long and complicated explanation, read this entry about the complicated dynamics that belie the surface calm of life at the top in China:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3820772/posts?page=26#26


2 posted on 03/02/2020 5:12:23 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Another episode of Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. That’s so glamorous.


3 posted on 03/02/2020 5:17:03 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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There were two Americans interviewed who admitted they LIED about having been tested and being negative just to avoid quarantine.

On this cruise, the ship comedian fled the boat and was fired.


4 posted on 03/02/2020 5:17:21 PM PST by TigerClaws
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Indeed. Go big or go home, or better to overreact than under-react. Also, communist China has constantly ruled the nation by campaign or “struggle” so there are benefits to having everyone moving to a campaign you control


5 posted on 03/02/2020 5:23:00 PM PST by PGR88
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That is why this whole self quarantine is total BS..can’t rely on people to actually stay put..yeah you promise to be a good girl/boy and stay home, dont leave for 2 weeks, put a camera on their house and watch how fast they bail


6 posted on 03/02/2020 5:44:45 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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Friends were turned away from their Disney cruise Saturday because one of them had recently been in Japan. This was decided 45 minutes before cruise departure. Then they had the guts to try to push them to some credit over at WDW if they wanted to have a vacation there before the cruise line finally relented and issued a refund (for the cruise only.)

So, who knows, they might find themselves back in quarantine coming back from Japan now. Everything is constantly evolving. They might have saved themselves time just coming back on CoronaAir.

7 posted on 03/02/2020 5:46:02 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Yes. And it’s up to 24 days incubation.

It’s going to be a year to get a shot for it. Meanwhile, it’ll kill 20,000-50,000 like the flu does.

Men and Asians are 5x more likely to get it.

No deaths of kids under 9.


8 posted on 03/02/2020 5:52:50 PM PST by TigerClaws
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Governor Kemp(Of Georgia) is gonna have a press conference in an hour..my guess, someone tested positive
My suggestion is ANYONE who has come off a plane from Italy, South Korea, any affected country has to be put in a facility that can hold them for 30 days, give them food, clothing, whatever they need for 30 days..I dont trust for one second these people are self quarantining


9 posted on 03/02/2020 5:59:34 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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Keep us pinged, please.

Thank you.


10 posted on 03/02/2020 6:00:39 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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Not sure if you have twitter but this twitter feed gives daily coronavirus updates
https://twitter.com/BNODesk


11 posted on 03/02/2020 6:04:07 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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“Men and Asians are 5x more likely to get it.”

Source?


12 posted on 03/02/2020 6:05:01 PM PST by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant.)
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These Americans, or at least residents of America, are wearing getaway masks.

https://twitter.com/GKeile/status/1234621745753137162


13 posted on 03/02/2020 6:06:27 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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[“Men and Asians are 5x more likely to get it.”

Source?]


I think that’s extremely unlikely. What’s more likely is that Chinese death rates are probably the tip of the iceberg and low compared to what non-Chinese death rates will be, as we’re now seeing from death rates in Italy and Iran. At the same time, I think the Chinese response is overwrought. It hasn’t done that much damage in China, relative to the flu (don’t know if the Chinese even keep flu death statistics).

Here’s a clue as to the impact of viruses originating in China on China itself vs outside of China:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#Hypotheses_about_the_source
[One of the few regions of the world seemingly less affected by the 1918 flu pandemic was China, where there may have been a comparatively mild flu season in 1918 (although this is disputed, see #Less-affected areas). There were relatively few deaths from the flu in China compared to other regions of the world.[24][25] This has led to speculation that the 1918 flu pandemic originated from China.[26][27][28][29] The relatively mild flu season and lower rates of flu mortality in China in 1918 may be explained due to the fact that the Chinese population had already possessed acquired immunity to the flu virus.[30] Thus in 1918, China was spared from the worst ravages of the pandemic, due to the apparent greater resistance to the virus among the Chinese population compared to other regions of the world[31][32] ]


There’s no magic here. People whose ancestors have been eating exotic animals and getting infected by pathogens thereof for thousands of years are going to have superior immunity. The genetic lineages that were vulnerable got very sick and died out. They left far fewer or no descendants.


14 posted on 03/02/2020 6:21:21 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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One of the studies. I’m not google. They can’t talk about race unless it’s to blame Trump for racism but the science is there.


15 posted on 03/02/2020 6:21:48 PM PST by TigerClaws
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If they test positive with the new CDC test.

Give them the choice of staying home with an ankle gps bracelet or monitored group isolation.


16 posted on 03/02/2020 6:25:44 PM PST by Grampa Dave ( Welcome to Mass Quarantinofornia !!!.. Sanctuary State in rapid decline!!!.. Norm's Revenge)
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One third of the ‘refugees’ in my State take tuberculosis meds and have to be observed taking the pills by a nurse - because they can’t be trusted to do it on their own. Yet we’re supposed to trust people to self-quarantine?


17 posted on 03/02/2020 6:26:07 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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Judge flew in from Italy to N.Ohio. Says she’s self quarantine. But her daughter is sick in France.


18 posted on 03/02/2020 6:26:35 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Mr. President, We the People, have your back.)
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What Judge? Damn that sucks hope her daughter is going to be OK


19 posted on 03/02/2020 6:30:52 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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If you were on that ship, you will have to be quarantined for 37 years before anyone can trust you in public again!!!

People are such idiots.

20 posted on 03/02/2020 6:32:31 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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